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Index of Subjects --2119117045-1425917657-1386631914=:70282 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Fred=C2=A0 and All=0AGrowing up on PEI, Huns Perdix perdix now called Gr= ay Partridge=0Awe very plentiful. My Grandfather used to feed them in the w= inter and=0Ahe would have up to100 birds. He would sweep the snow of a sout= h facing porch and they would roost there on a sunny day. He kept a box of = grit for them and they ate a susprising amount.=0ARoads were neither plowed= or salted and school was not too important=0Ain the winter. Then in the la= te 50s they built regional high schools with=0Abuses and all. The road were= then plowed and salted. The Huns found=0Athe sand and salt a great source = of grit. That was the end on the Huns.=0ARoad salt killed them all - same s= tory all over PEI and since then there=0Aare very few. Only a scattered flo= ck here and there.=0AThey were a fine bird - we had a few to eat in the fal= l but they multiplied=0Aso fast a few less made no difference.=C2=A0=C2=A0 = =0A=C2=A0Some things don't mix=0APaul=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Monday, December 9, 201= 3 4:53:30 PM, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:=0A =0AAnd= note that porous asphalt pavement, which has been available for 4 =0Adecad= es, reduces the need for salt and by aiding infiltration avoids salt =0Apea= ks in waterways, is not prone to potholes or hydroplaning and being rough = =0Ais less hazardous in black ice conditions.=C2=A0 For the 1978 bible see-= -=0Ahttp://www.asphaltpavement.org/images/stories/porous_pavement-thelan.pd= f=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This is an old PDF so find does not work and 1-3 characte= rs are missing =0Afrom the left margin of most pages but reading both ends = to the left margin =0Ausually works.=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 For a really differen= t and recent twist see--=0ATo be continued: my computer has eaten two e-mai= ls and even find can't find =0Athem; no kidding.=0AYt, Dave Webster=0A=0A--= --- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: "Fred Schueler" <bckcdb@istar.ca>=0ATo:= <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>=0ACc: "nancy dowd" <nancypdowd@gmail.com>=0ASent= : Monday, December 09, 2013 4:27 PM=0ASubject: Re: [NatureNS] mourning dove= s among road salt=0A=0A=0A> On 12/9/2013 11:57 AM, terri.crane@ns.sympatico= .ca wrote:=0A>=0A>> It was likely for the grit! not a healthy choice and as= spastics show =0A>> often a deadly one=0A>=0A> * Road salts and birds: an = assessment of the risk with particular emphasis =0A> on winter finch mortal= ity - Pierre Mineau and Lorna J. Brownlee Wildlife =0A> Society Bulletin 33= (3):835-841. 2005=0A>=0A> Abstract: There have been many documented cases o= f bird mortality along =0A> roadsides where salt was applied. Herbivorous a= nd granivorous species, =0A> especially, are attracted to salt, probably to= satisfy a dietary need. =0A> Because mortality appears to be primarily a r= esult of vehicle strikes, =0A> most authors have assumed that salt was only= indirectly responsible for =0A> the deaths=E2=80=94a case of =E2=80=9Cfata= l attraction=E2=80=9D to busy salted roads. Repeated =0A> observations of a= pparent behavioral toxicity along roadsides, as well as =0A> new informatio= n on the toxicology of oral salt ingestion in birds, now =0A> suggest that = salt toxicity per se is contributing to the vulnerability of =0A> small son= gbirds to road traffic and perhaps is a direct cause of mortality =0A> in s= ome birds. The difficulty of retrieving bird carcasses and the low =0A> rat= e of reporting suggest that kills probably are more widespread and =0A> fre= quent than indicated by documented reports alone. Most known cases of =0A> = songbird mortality have occurred within a group of birds collectively =0A> = known as winter finches belonging to the subfamily Carduelinae. This may = =0A> result from a higher probability of exposure for these species because= of =0A> their diet and presence in the snow belt but also may reflect a gr= eater =0A> ease of detecting mortality incidents in species forming large f= eeding =0A> flocks. The high attraction of salted roads for winter finches = suggests =0A> that the roads' ecological footprint is very large. We conclu= de that the =0A> importance of road salt as a mortality factor in these spe= cies long has =0A> been under-estimated by wildlife managers and transport = personnel.=0A>=0A> http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2193/0091-7648%282005%2= 933%5B835%3ARSABAA%5D2.0.CO%3B2=0A>=0A>> ---- nancy dowd <nancypdowd@gmail.= com> wrote:=0A>>> There was a group of about 10 Mourning Doves amidst a pil= e of loose road =0A>>> salt on the paved intersection of Trunk 10 and the C= herryfield Road, Lun =0A>>> Co this morning. They flew off as I turned in. = I can't imagine they were =0A>>> feeding on road salt and were maybe just i= nvestigating a possible food =0A>>> or grit source? Strange to see them the= re.=0A>>>=0A>>> Nancy=0A>=0A>=0A> -- =0A> ---------------------------------= ---------------------------=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Frederick= W. Schueler & Aleta Karstad=0A> Bishops Mills Natural History Centre - htt= p://pinicola.ca/bmnhc.htm=0A> Mudpuppy Night in Oxford Mills - http://pinic= ola.ca/mudpup1.htm=0A> Daily Paintings - http://karstaddailypaintings.blogs= pot.com/=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 RR#2 Bishops Mills, Ontario,= Canada K0G 1T0=0A>=C2=A0 on the Smiths Falls Limestone Plain 44* 52'N 75*= 42'W=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (613)258-3107 <bckcdb at istar.ca> http://pinicola.c= a/=0A> ------------------------------------------------------------=0A>=0A>= =0A> -----=0A> No virus found in this message.=0A> Checked by AVG - www.avg= .com=0A> Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6904 - Release Date: 1= 2/09/13=0A> --2119117045-1425917657-1386631914=:70282 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He= lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo= nt-size:14pt"><div><span>Hi Fred and All</span></div><div><span>Growi= ng up on PEI, Huns Perdix perdix now called Gray Partridge</span></div><div= ><span>we very plentiful. My Grandfather used to feed them in the winter an= d</span></div><div><span>he would have up to100 b