[NatureNS] Ticks Out - the Permethrin Option

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From: Mary Macaulay <Marymacaulay@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 20:41:24 -0300
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I hope people will consider very carefully before applying such pesticides a=
s bug b gon and others to their lawns and gardens. Google them and check the=
ir toxicity to pollinators and other beneficial insects. Surely at least tho=
se on this nature living list can be leaders, communicators and advocates fo=
r dealing with the less than 2% of insects considered pests in other ways ra=
ther than these incredibly poisonous treatments.=20
As for ticks. Tuck your pant legs in your socks, wear bug jackets and gloves=
 etc. Washing pesticide soaked clothing introduces these chemicals into our w=
ater.=20
Pyrethroids have been found to be unaffected by secondary treatment systems a=
t municipal wastewater treatment facilities. They appear in the effluent, us=
ually at levels lethal to invertebrates.

With kindest regards
Mary (Macaulay)
marymacaulay@hotmail.com
@maryemacaulay

> On May 5, 2014, at 8:15 PM, "Dave&Jane Schlosberg" <dschlosb-g@ns.sympatic=
o.ca> wrote:
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> "Bug B Gon"--widely available hereabouts.  It has pyrethrin.
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> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: Phil Schappert
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:04 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Ticks Out - the Permethrin Option
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> At 6:49 PM -0300 5/5/14, Dave&Jane Schlosberg wrote:
>> Permethrin is the chemical form of pyrethrin, which comes from=20
>> chrysanthemums.   Pyrethrin is available in many insecticides sold in=20
>> garden stores.  It is said to irritate skin, but we sprayed it on the=20
>> bottoms of pants and shirt cuffs.  We haven=E2=A4=81t had any ticks (yet!=
) on us.=20
>> Or skin irritation.
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> A minor correction, Jane, permethrin is the
> man-made analog of pyrethrin and permethrin is
> available in far more insecticides than pyrethrin
> (because permethrin has a longer shelf-life, a
> longer active period and is cheaper to include in
> insecticide formulation).
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> Phil
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> --=20
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> Phil Schappert, PhD
>=20
> 27 Clovis Ave.
> Halifax, NS, B3P 1J3
> 902-460-8343 (cell)
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> philschappert.com
> imaginaturestudio.ca
> philschappert.ca
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> "Just let imagination lead, reality will follow through..."
>                                        (Michael Hedges)=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: aut=
o;">I hope people will consider very carefully before applying such pesticid=
es as bug b gon and others to their lawns and gardens. Google them and check=
 their toxicity to pollinators and other beneficial insects. Surely at least=
 those on this nature living list can be leaders, communicators and advocate=
s for dealing with the less than 2% of insects considered pests in other way=
s rather than these incredibly poisonous treatments.&nbsp;</div><div><span s=
tyle=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">As for ticks. Tuck your pant legs i=
n your socks, wear bug jackets and gloves etc. Washing pesticide soaked clot=
hing introduces these chemicals into our water.&nbsp;</span><br><span style=3D=
"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">=
Pyrethroids have been found to be unaffected by secondary treatment systems a=
t municipal wastewater treatment facilities. They appear in the effluent, us=
ually at levels lethal to invertebrates.</span></div><div><span style=3D"fon=
t-size: 14px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></span><span style=3D"-we=
bkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">With kindest regards</span><div style=3D"-webk=
it-text-size-adjust: auto;">Mary (Macaulay)</div><div style=3D"-webkit-text-=
size-adjust: auto;"><a href=3D"mailto:marymacaulay@hotmail.com">marymacaulay=
@hotmail.com</a></div><div style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">@maryem=
acaulay</div></div><div style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br>On May=
 5, 2014, at 8:15 PM, "Dave&amp;Jane Schlosberg" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dschl=
osb-g@ns.sympatico.ca">dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></di=
v><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><div><=
span>"Bug B Gon"--widely available hereabouts. &nbsp;It has pyrethrin.</span=
><br><span></span><br><span>-----Original Message----- </span><br><span>From:=
 Phil Schappert</span><br><span>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:04 PM</span><br=
><span>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.c=
a</a></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Ticks Out - the Permethrin Opt=
ion</span><br><span></span><br><span>At 6:49 PM -0300 5/5/14, Dave&amp;Jane S=
chlosberg wrote:</span><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Permethrin is the=
 chemical form of pyrethrin, which comes from </span><br></blockquote><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><span>chrysanthemums. &nbsp;&nbsp;Pyrethrin is available=
 in many insecticides sold in </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><span>garden stores. &nbsp;It is said to irritate skin, but we sprayed i=
t on the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>bottoms of p=
ants and shirt cuffs. &nbsp;We haven=E2=A4=81t had any ticks (yet!) on us. <=
/span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Or skin irritation.</=
span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>A minor correction, Jane, perme=
thrin is the</span><br><span>man-made analog of pyrethrin and permethrin is<=
/span><br><span>available in far more insecticides than pyrethrin</span><br>=
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