[NatureNS] Ticks Out - the Permethrin Option

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Well Dave as to hairless sheep.=0AIt was a good project - the CDA hired lot=
s of folks with lots of initials after their name - and of the correct poli=
tical views. I imagion most are still drawing govt pensions as we speak. Ne=
edless to say they didn't want me. anyway the project had other objects and=
 they had some success - the wool fell out of the sheep in the spring so sh=
earing was unnecessary - some of the wool anyway.=0AUnfortunately other mor=
e essential pieces fell of as well with the result the hairless sheep ended=
 up in Irish stew.=0ALuckly some sheep farmers found out how to produce bet=
ter ewes with the result that the Govt sheep came a distant second in the e=
yes of most sheep men.=0AHave a nice spring=0APaul=0AOn Tuesday, May 6, 201=
4 9:36:48 PM, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:=0A  =0AHi =
Mary & =0AAll,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =0AMay 6, 2014 =0A=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 With regard to the effects on Arthropods of wearing =0APerm=
ethrin treating clothing when in the woods it seems clear to me that, even =
=0Aif widely used,=C2=A0the effect would be vanishingly small because (if I=
 =0Aunderstand this correctly) exposure must be by direct contact with the =
clothing, =0Aexposure will be transient and the area of exposure will be li=
mited (a huge area =0Aof=C2=A0cloth is not left hanging in one place).  =0A=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The direct effect of motor vehicle traffic on flying =0A=
insects would probably be at least one million times as great.  =0A=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 A few years ago it typically took 2 decades for someone =0Ato =
get a clear grasp of even a narrow field of study so there was time for =0A=
reflection. The internet now furnishes rapid access to vast amounts of =0Ai=
nformation=C2=A0and exposure to=C2=A0countless instant experts. So one shou=
ld =0Awelcome verifiable raw information and be wary of perhaps faulty idea=
s.  =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Gulliver's travels in Laputa is a good place to s=
tart. =0AWhatever happened to that project to breed hairless sheep ? =0AYt,=
 Dave Webster, Kentville =0A=0A----- Original Message -----  =0AFrom: Mary =
 Macaulay  =0A>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca  =0A>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 =
8:41 PM =0A>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Ticks Out - the  Permethrin Option =0A>=
=0A> =0A>I hope people will consider very  carefully before applying such p=
esticides as bug b gon and others to their  lawns and gardens. Google them =
and check their toxicity to pollinators and  other beneficial insects. Sure=
ly at least those on this nature living list can  be leaders, communicators=
 and advocates for dealing with the less than 2% of  insects considered pes=
ts in other ways rather than these incredibly poisonous  treatments.=C2=A0 =
=0A>As for ticks. Tuck your pant  legs in your socks, wear bug jackets and =
gloves etc. Washing pesticide soaked  clothing introduces these chemicals i=
nto our water.=C2=A0=0A>Pyrethroids have been found to be  unaffected by se=
condary treatment systems at municipal wastewater treatment  facilities. Th=
ey appear in the effluent, usually at levels lethal to  invertebrates. =0A>=
=0A>With kindest regards =0A>Mary (Macaulay) =0A>marymacaulay@hotmail.com =
=0A>@maryemacaulay =0A>=0A>On May 5, 2014, at 8:15 PM, =0A  "Dave&Jane Schl=
osberg" <dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca>  wrote:=0A>=0A> =0A>"Bug B Gon"--widel=
y available hereabouts. =C2=A0It has  pyrethrin.=0A>>=0A>>-----Original Mes=
sage----- =0A>>From: Phil Schappert=0A>>Sent: Monday, May 05,  2014 8:04 PM=
=0A>>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=0A>>Subject:  Re: [NatureNS] Ticks Out - t=
he Permethrin  Option=0A>>=0A>>At 6:49 PM -0300 5/5/14,  Dave&Jane Schlosbe=
rg wrote:=0A>>=0A>>Permethrin is the chemical form of  pyrethrin, which com=
es from =0A>>> =0A>>chrysanthemums. =C2=A0=C2=A0Pyrethrin is  available in =
many insecticides sold in =0A>>> =0A>>garden stores. =C2=A0It is said to ir=
ritate  skin, but we sprayed it on the =0A>>> =0A>>bottoms of pants and shi=
rt cuffs. =C2=A0We  haven=E2=A4=81t had any ticks (yet!) on us. =0A>>> =0A>=
>Or skin  irritation.=0A>>>=0A>>A minor  correction, Jane, permethrin is th=
e=0A>>man-made analog of  pyrethrin and permethrin is=0A>>available in far =
more  insecticides than pyrethrin=0A>>(because permethrin has a longer  she=
lf-life, a=0A>>longer active period and is cheaper to include  in=0A>>insec=
ticide  formulation).=0A>>=0A>>Phil=0A>>=0A>>-- =0A>>=0A>>Phil Schappert,  =
PhD=0A>>=0A>>27 Clovis Ave.=0A>>Halifax,  NS, B3P 1J3=0A>>902-460-8343  (ce=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ve=
rdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>Well Dave as to hai=
rless sheep.</span></div><div><span>It was a good project - the CDA hired l=
ots of folks with lots of initials after their name - and of the correct po=
litical views. I imagion most are still dr