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> --Apple-Mail-B447D5C6-60B5-4DA7-A287-5206959E920F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, that should have been Richard! Sent from my iPad > On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Richard Stern <sternrichard@gmail.com> wrote= : >=20 > Hi, >=20 > People may not agree with many of David's posts, and I suspect he might po= st some stuff just for the sake of being controversial, or to initiate discu= ssion, but actually I usually enjoy reading them. There are others who somet= imes post in a similar vein. I don't think disagreeing with the contents of a= post, or many posts, would be grounds for removing someone, as long as tha= t person is not rude, demeaning or insulting to other members. Any thoughts= , List-owner (or David)? >=20 > Richard >=20 >=20 >> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:00 PM, <cpepper@ymail.com> wrote: >> Sooo, how much of David Webster's bullshit do we have to put up with befo= re we can remove him from the list? >>=20 >> Chris >> Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. >> Envoy=C3=A9 sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r=C3=A9sea= u de Bell. >> From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> >> Sender: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca >> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:16:31 -0300 >> To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> >> ReplyTo: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... >>=20 >> Hi All, June 23, 2014 >> I have a problem with over zealous regulation and over zealous enforc= ement. If a park operates on a strickly 'look but don't touch basis' then pr= otection may be complete but of short duration. This applies especially now w= hen many kids are in love with the latest game/technology and bored by anyth= ing natural (unless it is packaged in 30 second clips to be enjoyed in the c= omfort of a chair at home). >> =20 >> Or, expressed another way, Pogo and his friends will over the long ha= ul be protected by the child who takes a turtle home and thereby learns to r= espect the natural world. >> =20 >> Miner' s Marsh is subject to severe floods from time to time. And as m= ore esker segments and other coarse glacial deposits upstream are mined for s= and and gravel this flow instability is bound to increase. I suspect that ma= ny Miner's Marsh Painted Turtles will be swept out to sea whenever we have l= ate floods. >> =20 >> John Muir as a boy, when grounded to home base, sometimes amused himself= by throwing stones at cats or, in one instance, dropping one out of a high w= indow. Somehow this wild boy turned out ok, mainly because he was wild. >> =20 >> They hang the man and flog the woman >> who steals the goose from off the common >> but let the greater criminal loose >> who steals the common from the goose. >> =20 >> Yt, DW, Kentville >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: John and Nhung >> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 11:11 AM >> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... >>=20 >> Regarding the kid and the turtle, part of growing up is internalizing the= title of that Rolling Stones song: =E2=80=9CYou can=E2=80=99t always get w= hat you want.=E2=80=9D=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> The appropriate response for a parent to make is, =E2=80=9CNo, you can=E2= =80=99t. [Insert reason.] Get over it.=E2=80=9D >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Looks as if a lot of public education is needed. It=E2=80=99s very troub= ling if authorities hesitate to impose penalties because of fear of public r= eaction. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca= ] On Behalf Of James Churchill >> Sent: June-23-14 9:36 AM >> To: naturens >> Subject: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park... >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> hi folks,=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> dogs -=20 >>=20 >> Others might have noticed this but there are lots of off-leash dogs at th= e Marsh these days. This morning a number of them were chasing ducks in the w= ater. There are currently broods of Wood Ducks, Mallards and Pied-billed Gre= bes (2 pairs) hanging around within the marsh and young of other birds at th= e periphery of the marsh. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Speaking with Gren Jones, DU Director, there is a fine for having off-lea= sh dogs at this site. There is one sign indicating to keep pets on leashes b= ut it is around the back near the private drive (northeast corner). There us= ed to be one near the bridge as well, but it has been taken down. It is not f= un to remind people of this and can elicit strong emotions from some people w= hen confronted about it. DU is working to get another sign up here.=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> turtles -=20 >>=20 >> during Marsh Madness this weekend a number of attendees mentioned that th= ey have observed people taking Eastern Painted Turtles from the Marsh for th= eir children etc. One individual mentioned that they were trying to convince= a lady not to take them from the marsh and she responded that since she tol= d her child she could have one, and that the child was currently crying she w= ould just take it anyway. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Some thoughts around this are to put up an interpretive sign near some of= the prime basking areas, or even create basking areas farther from the mars= h edge. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> If anyone has thoughts on these things let me know and I can pass along s= uggestions to DU. =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> cheers,=20 >>=20 >> James.=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> -- >>=20 >> James Churchill >> Kentville, Nova Scotia >> jameslchurchill@gmail.com >> (902) 681-2374 >>=20 >>=20 >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3972/7708 - Release Date: 06/19/14= >>=20 >=