[NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...

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David often brings a breath of fresh air and common sense to this list. He
also likes to incite or provoke discussion in a meaningful way.. He
definitely should not be removed from the list.

Sandy


On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Richard Stern <sternrichard@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> People may not agree with many of David's posts, and I suspect he might
> post some stuff just for the sake of being controversial, or to initiate
> discussion, but actually I usually enjoy reading them. There are others w=
ho
> sometimes post in a similar vein. I don't think disagreeing with the
> contents of a post, or many posts,  would be grounds for removing someone=
,
> as long as that person is not rude, demeaning  or insulting to other
> members. Any thoughts, List-owner (or David)?
>
> Richard
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:00 PM, <cpepper@ymail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Sooo, how much of David Webster's bullshit do we have to put up with
>> before we can remove him from the list?
>>
>> Chris
>> Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
>> Envoy=C3=A9 sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r=C3=A9se=
au de Bell.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: * David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
>> *Sender: * naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca
>> *Date: *Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:16:31 -0300
>> *To: *<naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> *ReplyTo: * naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>> *Subject: *Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
>>
>> Hi All,                        June 23, 2014
>>     I have a problem with over zealous regulation and over zealous
>> enforcement. If a park operates on a strickly 'look but don't touch basi=
s'
>> then protection may be complete but of short duration. This applies
>> especially now when many kids are in love with the latest game/technolog=
y
>> and bored by anything natural (unless it is packaged in 30 second clips =
to
>> be enjoyed in the comfort of a chair at home).
>>
>>     Or, expressed another way, Pogo and his friends will over the long
>> haul be protected by the child who takes a turtle home and thereby learn=
s
>> to respect the natural world.
>>
>>     Miner' s Marsh is subject to severe floods from time to time. And as
>> more esker segments and other coarse glacial deposits upstream are mined
>> for sand and gravel this flow instability is bound to increase. I suspec=
t
>> that many Miner's Marsh Painted Turtles will be swept out to sea wheneve=
r
>> we have late floods.
>>
>>  John Muir as a boy, when grounded to home base, sometimes amused himsel=
f
>> by throwing stones at cats or, in one instance, dropping one out of a hi=
gh
>> window. Somehow this wild boy turned out ok, mainly because he was wild.
>>
>> They hang the man and flog the woman
>> who steals the goose from off the common
>>  but let the greater criminal loose
>>  who steals the common from the goose.
>>
>> Yt, DW, Kentville
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca>
>> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 23, 2014 11:11 AM
>> *Subject:* RE: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
>>
>>  Regarding the kid and the turtle, part of growing up is internalizing
>> the title of that Rolling Stones song:  =E2=80=9CYou can=E2=80=99t alway=
s get what you
>> want.=E2=80=9D
>>
>>
>>
>> The appropriate response for a parent to make is, =E2=80=9CNo, you can=
=E2=80=99t.
>> [Insert reason.]  Get over it.=E2=80=9D
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks as if a lot of public education is needed.  It=E2=80=99s very trou=
bling if
>> authorities hesitate to impose penalties because of fear of public react=
ion.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:
>> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] *On Behalf Of *James Churchill
>> *Sent:* June-23-14 9:36 AM
>> *To:* naturens
>> *Subject:* [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
>>
>>
>>
>> hi folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> dogs -
>>
>> Others might have noticed this but there are lots of off-leash dogs at
>> the Marsh these days. This morning a number of them were chasing ducks i=
n
>> the water. There are currently broods of Wood Ducks, Mallards and
>> Pied-billed Grebes (2 pairs) hanging around within the marsh and young o=
f
>> other birds at the periphery of the marsh.
>>
>>
>>
>> Speaking with Gren Jones, DU Director, there is a fine for having
>> off-leash dogs at this site. There is one sign indicating to keep pets o=
n
>> leashes but it is around the back near the private drive (northeast
>> corner). There used to be one near the bridge as well, but it has been
>> taken down. It is not fun to remind people of this and can elicit strong
>> emotions from some people when confronted about it. DU is working to get
>> another sign up here.
>>
>>
>>
>> turtles -
>>
>> during Marsh Madness this weekend a number of attendees mentioned that
>> they have observed people taking Eastern Painted Turtles from the Marsh =
for
>> their children etc. One individual mentioned that they were trying to
>> convince a lady not to take them from the marsh and she responded that
>> since she told her child she could have one, and that the child was
>> currently crying she would just take it anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> Some thoughts around this are to put up an interpretive sign near some o=
f
>> the prime basking areas, or even create basking areas farther from the
>> marsh edge.
>>
>>
>>
>> If anyone has thoughts on these things let me know and I can pass along
>> suggestions to DU.
>>
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> James.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> James Churchill
>> Kentville, Nova Scotia
>> jameslchurchill@gmail.com
>> (902) 681-2374
>>
>>
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