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RE: [NatureNS] Glossy BuckthornHi Donna & All,
Further to your comment of June 9 that they "will absolutely not =
flop over and perish" see this image on Flickr.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/91817127@N08/14650775933/in/photostream/
This happens when they strive for light, become thin & topheavy.
YT, Dave Webster Kentville
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Donna Crossland=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Glossy Buckthorn
I've worked with glossy buckthorn for several years now. Glossy =
buckthorn that is merely cut down will absolutely regrow vigorously =
unless it is re-cut over many years (similar to cutting down alder =
bushes-they spring back up with astounding rapidity). They will =
absolutely not flop over and perish. (If only!) This must be some other =
plant, or this site has been contaminated with something.
The decision to used glyphosate very sparingly (taking care to apply =
it directly on the plant and not using spray that may drift and hit =
non-target native plants) is not one to be taken lightly. Those who =
have made the decision to use it were oftentimes =
anti-spray/anti=3Dchemical folks just like me, who were forced to =
rethink a long-term strategy after extensive research and consultation =
with experts about the ecological traits of this species. After trying =
cutting, pulling, and girdling, I've revised my thinking to add an =
additional 'tool to the toolbox'. (Obviously another 'tool' that must =
be included is public education, and so the Herald article is a good =
start.) Glyphosate is now used (though as sparingly as possible by =
painting foliage and/or dabbing it directly on cut stumps) in several of =
our national parks in eastern Canada and also by the Nature Conservancy. =
Glossy buckthorn is rapidly closing in within Kejimkujik National Park, =
as well as along the riparian zones of the Mersey and Medway rivers. It =
is rapidly appearing all over the province. Some small woodlot owners =
who have carried out careful selection harvests on their woodlot have =
received an invasion of glossy buckthorn instead of valuable native tree =
species. (This is a serious impact to their economic returns, and some =
are waiting for DNR to provide some direction on this new and serious =
problem.) Since it has the ability to grow in shade of undisturbed =
forests, as well as more open situations, there is almost no where that =
it cannot establish. Sean Blaney at the Conservation Data Centre =
informs me that it can take over and literally transform fens. Fruit at =
cathartic to birds, and we are now left to question whether it may even =
impact the ability for some avian species to fatten up for migratory =
flights... (more research required). I don't mean to be alarmist, but =
if we don't want to see great, impenetrable walls of glossy buckthorns =
in protected areas and other biologically diverse areas, then the =
initiatives that were otherwise criticised below must be adopted. =20
If you do not yet have glossy buckthorn on your land, I suggest you =
look again (it is easily overlooked), or wait for its arrival. Coming =
soon to a place near you! This is the "new normal".
Donna Crossland
-----Original Message-----
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of John and Nhung
Sent: June-09-14 11:02 AM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Glossy Buckthorn
I don't know the peculiarities of this invasive and hope I don't find =
out. =20
In any case, keep sharing those words of wisdom, David!
-----Original Message-----
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]
On Behalf Of David & Alison Webster
Sent: June-09-14 9:55 AM
To: NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: [NatureNS] Glossy Buckthorn
Dear All, June 9, 2014
I see some glysophate salesman has struck the mother lode. Using =
it to control Glossy Buckthorn on 1,100 acres by pulling out seedlings =
and painting glysophate on cut stumps of larger growth. At 1/2 acre per =
Sunday it will take 2200 Sundays or 42 years. Meanwhile birds in fruit =
season can sow 1,100 acres by noon. And if the soil has been disturbed =
by pulling up seedlings then the take should be very good.
=
http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1213245-glossy-buckthorn-feels-th=
e-w
rath-of-volunteers-in-pugwash-estuary
And all this enthusiastic trampling will no doubt inflict damage =
on the native plants that they intend to protect.
When one of these are cut they have to be hung upside down to =
prevent the cut ends from rooting; according to this article.
They must be dealing with a very different strain of Glossy =
Buckthorn than the one I know. A road that I cut through some dense =
Buckthorn thickets, just after fruit maturity when they are most =
vulnerable, in 2002 has not regrown. If left alone they will eventually =
flop over and perish.
Yours truly, Dave Webster, Kentville=20
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<DIV>Hi Donna & All,</DIV>
<DIV> Further to your comment of June 9 that they =
"<FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>will absolutely not flop over and perish" see this image =
on=20
Flickr.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DConsolas></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DConsolas><A=20
href=3D"https://www.flickr.com/photos/91817127@N08/14650775933/in/photost=
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<DIV> This happens when they strive for light, become =
thin=20
& topheavy.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>YT, Dave Webster Kentville</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddcrossland@eastlink.ca =
href=3D"mailto:dcrossland@eastlink.ca">Donna=20
Crossland</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dnaturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 09, 2014 =
12:13=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [NatureNS] Glossy=20
Buckthorn</DIV>
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<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>I've worked with =
glossy=20
buckthorn for</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT =
face=3DConsolas>several years=20
now. Glossy buckthorn that is merely cut down will=20
absolutely</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>regrow</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><U> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>vigorously</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas> unless</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT =
face=3DConsolas>it=20
is</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>=20
re-cut</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT face=3DConsolas>over =
many=20
years</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas> (similar =
to cutting=20
down alder bushes</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>-they=20
spring back</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas> up=20
with</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>astounding</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>rapidity</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>). </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT =
face=3DConsolas>They=20
will absolutely not flop over and perish.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>(If only!)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT =
face=3DConsolas>This must be=20
some other</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>=20
plant</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>, or this =
site has=20
been contaminated with something</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>The decision to =
used=20
glyphosate very sparingly (taking care to apply it</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca><U> <FONT face=3DConsolas>directly</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas> on the plant</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas> and not using spray that=20
may</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas> drift and =
hit=20
non-target</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas> =
native plants)=20
is not one to be taken light</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>ly. Those who have made the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-ca>=20
<FONT face=3DConsolas>decision</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas> to use it were</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas> oftentimes</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>=20
anti-spray/anti=3Dchemical folks just like me, who were forced to =
rethink a=20
long-term strategy after extensive researc</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>h and consultation with experts</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas> about the ecological traits of =
this=20
species</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT =
face=3DConsolas>After=20
trying cutting, pulling, and girdling, I</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>=92</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>ve revised=20
my thinking to add an additional</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> =
<FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>=91</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>tool to the=20
toolbox</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>=92</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>(</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>O</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>bviously=20
another</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>=91</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>tool</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>=92</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas> that must=20
be included is public education, and so t</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>he Herald article is a good =
start.) </FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca> <FONT face=3DConsolas>Glyphosate is now used (though as =
sparingly as=20
possible by painting</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>foliage</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>=20
and/or</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas> dabbing =
it directly=20
on cut stumps) in several of our national parks</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas> in eastern =
Canada</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas> and also by the Nature =
Conservancy. =20
Glossy buckthorn is rapidly</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>closing in</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>within Kejimkujik National Park, as well as=20
along</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT face=3DConsolas>the =
riparian=20
zone</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>s =
of</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas> the Mersey and Medway=20
rivers. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT =
face=3DConsolas>It is rapidly=20
appearing all over the province. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>Some small woodlot owners who have carried out careful =
selec</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>tion =
harvests on their=20
woodlot have received an invasion of glossy buckthorn instead of =
valuable=20
native tree species. (</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>This is a serious impact to their economic returns, =
and some are=20
waiting for DNR to provide some direction on this new and serious=20
problem.) </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT =
face=3DConsolas>Since it=20
has the ability to grow in shade of undisturbed forests, as well as =
more open=20
situations, there is almost no where that it cannot=20
establish. </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT =
face=3DConsolas>Sean=20
Blaney at the Conservation Data Centre informs me that it can take =
over=20
and</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>literally</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas></FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>transform</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>=20
fens.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT =
face=3DConsolas>Fruit=20
at cathartic to birds, and we are no</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>w</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas> left to=20
question whether it may even</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>impact</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas> the=20
ability</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas> for=20
some</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>avian</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>species</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas> to=20
fatten up for migratory flights... (more research =
re</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>quired). I don't mean to be =
alarmist, but=20
if we don't want to see great,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> <FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>impenetrable</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>=20
walls of glossy buckthorns in protected areas and other biologically =
diverse=20
areas, then the initiatives that</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> =
<FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>were</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>=20
other</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>wise =
criticised below=20
must be adopted. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>If you do not =
yet have glossy=20
buckthorn on your land, I suggest you look again (it is =
eas</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>ily overlooked), or wait for its =
arrival. =20
Coming soon to a place near you!</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas> This is the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca> =
<FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>=93</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>new=20
normal</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>=94</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
lang=3Den-ca></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>Donna=20
Crossland</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-us><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:=20
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">mailto:naturens-owner@chebu=
cto.ns.ca</A>]=20
On Behalf Of John and Nhung<BR>Sent: June-09-14 11:02 AM<BR>To:=20
naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<BR>Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Glossy=20
Buckthorn</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>I don't know the =
peculiarities=20
of this invasive and hope I don't find out. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>In any case, =
keep sharing=20
those words of wisdom, David!</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>-----Original=20
Message-----</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>From:</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca> </SPAN><A =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca"><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
face=3DConsolas>naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca></SPAN></A><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>=20
[</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=3Den-ca></SPAN><A=20
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca"><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
=
face=3DConsolas>mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca></SPAN></A><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>]</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>On Behalf Of =
David &=20
Alison Webster</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>Sent: June-09-14 =
9:55=20
AM</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>To:</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca> </SPAN><A href=3D"mailto:NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca"><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas>NatureNS@chebucto.ns.ca</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca></SPAN></A><SPAN lang=3Den-ca></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>Subject: =
[NatureNS] Glossy=20
Buckthorn</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>Dear=20
=
All, &nb=
sp; &nbs=
p; =20
June 9, 2014</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas> I see some=20
glysophate salesman has struck the mother lode. Using it to control =
Glossy=20
Buckthorn on 1,100 acres by pulling out seedlings and painting =
glysophate on=20
cut stumps of larger growth. At 1/2 acre per Sunday it will take 2200 =
Sundays=20
or 42 years. Meanwhile birds in fruit season can sow 1,100 acres by =
noon. And=20
if the soil has been disturbed by pulling up seedlings then the take =
should be=20
very good.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca></SPAN><A=20
=
href=3D"http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1213245-glossy-buckthorn-=
feels-the-w"><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
=
face=3DConsolas>http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia/1213245-glossy-bu=
ckthorn-feels-the-w</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
lang=3Den-ca></SPAN></A><SPAN lang=3Den-ca></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT=20
=
face=3DConsolas>rath-of-volunteers-in-pugwash-estuary</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas> And all=20
this enthusiastic trampling will no doubt inflict damage on the native =
plants=20
that they intend to protect.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas> When one =
of these are=20
cut they have to be hung upside down to prevent the cut ends from =
rooting;=20
according to this article.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT =
face=3DConsolas> They must=20
be dealing with a very different strain of Glossy Buckthorn than the =
one I=20
know. A road that I cut through some dense Buckthorn thickets, just =
after=20
fruit maturity when they are most vulnerable, in 2002 has not regrown. =
If left=20
alone they will eventually flop over and perish.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P dir=3Dltr><SPAN lang=3Den-ca><FONT face=3DConsolas>Yours truly, =
Dave Webster,=20
Kentville </FONT></SPAN></P><A></A>
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