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Hi Fred, Dec 21, 2014
Good intentions have a way of goings astray; no doubt about that.=20
Mandated targets for biodiesel e.g. led to rapid expansion of the =
tropical Palm Oil industry with ghastly human and environmental =
consequences. The corn to alcohol initiative in the US is another =
disaster.=20
Tinkering with any complex system generates a need for rapid =
feedback and control so unforseen adverse consequences can be nipped in =
the bud. Otherwise an initiative will fly like one of Goddard's early =
rockets; squirm around until propulsion and gravity are acting in the =
same direction. Or in other words follow the course of least resistance.
Ideally one would apply resistance so action combines maximum =
positive effects with minimum negative. But all to often some =
anticipated negative effect is enough to derail a undertaking that on =
balance would be very beneficial.=20
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Fred Schueler=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Scope of NatureNS: Re: Long again: Re: Long: Re: =
[NatureNS] light
On 12/20/2014 6:33 PM, David & Alison Webster wrote:
Opposition to wind generation has often come strangely enough =
from Naturalists; organizations or individuals. This was helped I expect =
by a famous site in California that was set in a raptor migration =
channel in a mountain pass by, what a concidence, a Petrochemical =
Company.=20
* experience in Ontario has been that these "green" energy projects =
are often put in by ecologically insensitive firms, prompting the new =
provincial motto of Ontario "green is black." =
http://www.saveostranderpoint.org/#sthash.LufTSMYD.dpbs is a tale of a =
wind farm in an "important bird area" where the Ministry of the =
Environment joined the "proponent's" appeal of a decision that the =
project posed an unacceptable risk to a SAR, and the whole basis of the =
Ontario Rivers Alliance http://www.ontarioriversalliance.ca/ was "green =
is black" mesoscale hydro projects that were to be blotted all across =
the norther part of the province - =
http://karstaddailypaintings.blogspot.ca/2012/10/precious-wild-rivers-cal=
endar-for-2013.html - see my comments. Another instance of this =
single-purpose insensitivity is the solar farms that are put in with no =
concern for Species at Risk that might be encouraged to live among the =
panels.
Just as is the case with massive certified-organic agriculture, if =
we're going to have green infrastructure it must be green all the way =
down - which will require substantial re-education of the =
industrial/financial sorts - it's not enough that politicians respond to =
the need to make alternative sources of energy useable - these =
installations must be installed with ecological sensitivity to the local =
sites, and in consultation with the local Human population.
fred.
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<DIV> Good intentions have a way of goings astray; no =
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about that. </DIV>
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<DIV> Mandated targets for biodiesel e.g. led to =
rapid=20
expansion of the tropical Palm Oil industry with ghastly human and =
environmental=20
consequences. The corn to alcohol initiative in the US is another =
disaster.=20
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Tinkering with any complex system generates a =
need for=20
rapid feedback and control so unforseen adverse consequences can be =
nipped in=20
the bud. Otherwise an initiative will fly like one of Goddard's early =
rockets;=20
squirm around until propulsion and gravity are acting in the same=20
direction. Or in other words follow the course of least=20
resistance.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Ideally one would apply resistance so action =
combines=20
maximum positive effects with minimum negative. But all to often some=20
anticipated negative effect is enough to derail a undertaking that on =
balance=20
would be very beneficial. </DIV>
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<DIV> Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</DIV>
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