[NatureNS] re large squid species in N.S.

From: Jim Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca>
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:42:26 -0300
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It=92s good that the genus names were used below, i.e. Illex vs. Loligo, =
but in this case the common names are very useful, and I would like to =
minimize reports of =93squids=94 in which the species cannot be told.  =
Illex is the =93short-finned=94 or =93boreal=94 squid, in which the =
mantle fins at the posterior end of the mantle are less than half the =
length of the mantle.  Loligo, on the other hand, also known as =
=93Peale=92s=94 or =93long-finned=94 squid, has paired fins that are =
more than half the mantle length.  Both species are quite big, reaching =
over 30 cm. in body length, not counting the 2 long tentacles (vs. the =
shorter 8 arms).

Andrew=92s description of the egg-masses of Loligo looking like latex =
gloves is not helpful to me =97 the masses of egg-sacs have been common =
and widespread in King=92s County from Scots=92 Bay to Kingsport to =
Grand Pre over the past two summers. =20

I have no experience with eggs of Illex (the Newf. squid of the =
=93squid-jiggin=92 ground=94), but many years ago there were lots of =
living Illex in a weir on the Fundy coast at Black Rock/Canada Creek =97 =
that weir has not existed now for decades.=20

Anyway, for anyone who actually sees one being jigged or otherwise =
fished, check the fin lengths and report them as =91long-finned=92 or =
=91short-finned=92 (but watch out for the ink!).

Perhaps Andrew can share with us how many species of squids and =
octopuses occur in Nova Scotia waters?

Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca>
> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Squid
> Date: April 20, 2015 at 7:52:03 AM ADT
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>=20
> The squid the Vietnamese gang were catching off the wharves in =
Yarmouth and
> Shelburne counties a couple of summers ago were Loligo.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]
> On Behalf Of Hebda, Andrew J
> Sent: April 19, 2015 9:20 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Squid
>=20
>=20
> Back in the late 70s we had both species.
>=20
> The Loligo would turn up early in the season and spawn in shallow =
waters
> (egg masses looked like bundlkes of latex gloves).
>=20
> Later (usually in Aug) the Illex would show up... but they spawned in =
open
> water with large gelatinous egg masses.
>=20
> not sure what=92s going on nowadays.. - Will check to see if there is =
anyone
> left in the O'Dor squid lab at Dal.
>=20
> Andrew
>=20
> ________________________________________
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] on
> behalf of rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca [rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca]
> Sent: April-19-15 8:12 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: [NatureNS] Squid
>=20
> Hi All
> An article in today=92s paper talks about squid in Nova Scotia.
> Someone claims the species of squid used to be Illex but recently the =
Loligo
> squid have appeared.
> I noticed the last few summers we caught large squid maybe 40 cms.
> This summer remains to be seen nevertheless some fresh calamari is =
always
> delicious!
> Enjoy the wait til they get here
> Paul
>=20


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dwindows-1252"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">It=92s =
good that the genus names were used below, i.e. Illex vs. Loligo, but in =
this case the common names are very useful, and I would like to minimize =
reports of =93squids=94 in which the species cannot be told. &nbsp;Illex =
is the =93short-finned=94 or =93boreal=94 squid, in which the mantle =
fins at the posterior end of the mantle are less than half the length of =
the mantle. &nbsp;Loligo, on the other hand, also known as =93Peale=92s=94=
 or =93long-finned=94 squid, has paired fins that are more than half the =
mantle length. &nbsp;Both species are quite big, reaching over 30 cm. in =
body length, not counting the 2 long tentacles (vs. the shorter 8 =
arms).<div><br></div><div>Andrew=92s description of the egg-masses of =
Loligo looking like latex gloves is not helpful to me =97 the masses of =
egg-sacs have been common and widespread in King=92s County from Scots=92 =
Bay to Kingsport to Grand Pre over the past two summers. =
&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I have no experience with eggs of Illex =
(the Newf. squid of the =93squid-jiggin=92 ground=94), but many years =
ago there were lots of living Illex in a weir on the Fundy coast at =
Black Rock/Canada Creek =97 that weir has not existed now for =
decades.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, for anyone who actually =
sees one being jigged or otherwise fished, check the fin lengths and =
report them as =91long-finned=92 or =91short-finned=92 (but watch out =
for the ink!).</div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps Andrew can share with us =
how many species of squids and octopuses occur in Nova Scotia =
waters?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers from Jim in =
Wolfville.<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, =
0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';">John and Nhung &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca">nhungjohn@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;<br></s=
pan></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';"><b>RE: [NatureNS] =
Squid</b><br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';">April 20, 2015 at =
7:52:03 AM ADT<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';"><a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br></s=
pan></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, =
1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';"><a=
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href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br></s=
pan></div><br><div>The squid the Vietnamese gang were catching off the =
wharves in Yarmouth and<br>Shelburne counties a couple of summers ago =
were Loligo.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.c=
a</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">mailto:naturens-owner@chebuc=
to.ns.ca</a>]<br>On Behalf Of Hebda, Andrew J<br>Sent: April 19, 2015 =
9:20 PM<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br>Sub=
ject: RE: [NatureNS] Squid<br><br><br>Back in the late 70s we had both =
species.<br><br>The Loligo would turn up early in the season and spawn =
in shallow waters<br>(egg masses looked like bundlkes of latex =
gloves).<br><br>Later (usually in Aug) the Illex would show up... but =
they spawned in open<br>water with large gelatinous egg =
masses.<br><br>not sure what=92s going on nowadays.. - Will check to see =
if there is anyone<br>left in the O'Dor squid lab at =
Dal.<br><br>Andrew<br><br>________________________________________<br>From=
: <a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.c=
a</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.c=
a</a>] on<br>behalf of <a =
href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a> =
[<a =
href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a>]<b=
r>Sent: April-19-15 8:12 PM<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br>Sub=
ject: [NatureNS] Squid<br><br>Hi All<br>An article in today=92s paper =
talks about squid in Nova Scotia.<br>Someone claims the species of squid =
used to be Illex but recently the Loligo<br>squid have appeared.<br>I =
noticed the last few summers we caught large squid maybe 40 cms.<br>This =
summer remains to be seen nevertheless some fresh calamari is =
always<br>delicious!<br>Enjoy the wait til they get =
here<br>Paul<br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=

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