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Hi Paul,
Thanks for your input but the streams I have in mind are free of =
dams.
Dave
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From: rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] goldfish question
=EF=BB=BF An interesting question Dave.=20
If you compare Kings County to PEI which has much the same drawbacks =
that you mention,=20
4 differences are immediately noticeable.=20
1 - no bass in PEI=20
2 - no large dams in PEI, a few low height affairs but not like Kings =
County.=20
3 - Fish Kills in PEI are prominent in the media. Not a news item in =
NS.=20
4 - The daily bag limit for trout in PEI is 16, in NS its 5. The trout =
population in PEI seems healthy=20
with very little stocking.=20
I think # 2 is very suspect as the prime reason for the demise of =
trout in Kings County.=20
Enjoy the spring=20
Paul=20
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On May 7, 2015 at 11:39 AM David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> =
wrote:=20
Hi Darrell & All, May 7, 2015=20
Over the last 65 years just about all of the formerly highly =
productive Trout streams in Kings County have become dead water.=20
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Streamflow instability, siltation from careless highway =
widening, erosion from extensive clearcuts or cultivated land, abnormal =
nutrient influx and acid rain are probable contributing factors, =
depending upon the settiing and there may be other unsuspected causes =
but in the complete absence of Bass, now or previously, they are =
excluded.=20
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If this kind of disaster can happen in the absence of Bass it =
could be rushing to judgment to blame Bass where they are present. They =
are tolerant of warm, sluggish water (low O2 I suspect) so would be =
expected to survive where Trout do not.=20
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I don't know Lake Egmont but I notice there are roads along =
three sides and one of these is just along the eastern side. The =
topography suggests water fed in from swamp brooks as opposed to spring =
fed so I wonder how ir fares in dry periods.=20
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When we first had a cottage at Sunken Lake in 1971 the walls and =
windows were shingled with swarms of insects when lights were on at =
night and the shallows in season had mob of Penny Toads and schools of =
Minnows. By 1995 insects, Toads and Minnows were very sparse.=20
=20
In all questions it is far better to iterate to the truth than =
to identify a possibly innocent culprit.=20
=20
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville=20
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----- Original Message ----- =20
From: darrell@abolitphotos.ca=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 6:12 PM=20
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] goldfish question=20
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Smallmouth basically wipe out trout, has happened in Lake Egmont =
and other lakes coming off the Shubenacadie River. Lake Egmont used to =
be flourshing in trout, not since tha bass entered. The the Pickerel =
entered about 4 years later than the smallmouthand that is all she =
wrote.
The only trout now are on our eastern shore watersheds and they =
are in danger I hear from smallmouth, sad indeed.
All the best,
Darrell
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On Tue, 05 May 2015 15:32:15 -0300, David & Alison Webster =
<dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
Hi John & All,=20
I think the reputation of Small-mouth Bass has been sullied =
by zenophobia; introduced and therefore bad. I asked on Naturens shortly =
after I joined, for proof that they were harmful and received only =
fluff.=20
They flourish where Trout can not survive, are fun to catch =
and, when skinned and filletted, are good eating. I have never =
encountered Bass in likely Trout water. In marginal water large Bass may =
eat small Trout but I would suppose that large Trout would do likewise.=20
Plants and animals should be judged on properties and =
effects not origin.=20
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville=20
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: John and Nhung=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 12:36 PM=20
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] goldfish question=20
=20
Have never heard of any goldfish or carp down Yarmouth way. A =
former German was interested in growing carp for the European market =
35-odd years ago. I expressed grave doubt that he could get the permits. =
Don=E2=80=99t think anything happened.
Will try to remember to pass along any news on this and will =
keep ears open.
We gotta start eating and encouraging more people to eat =
pickerel and smallmouth bass! No more fish intros., please!
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Hebda, Andrew J
Sent: May 4, 2015 10:01 AM
To: 'naturens@chebucto.ns.ca'
Cc: Gilhen, John A
Subject: [NatureNS] goldfish question
At the Museum, we have been trying to determine the =
distribution of goldfish within the Province.
We would appreciate any geo-reference reports on their =
occurrence . If anyone has such data, would appreciate if they could =
contact me.
Regards
Andrew
A Hebda
MNSM Collections (Zoology)
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