[NatureNS] An Apple Question

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Hi Paul & All,                                        Oct 13, 2015
    I bought some Gravenstein about a month ago which also had no fully =
developed seed and am at a loss to know what is going on. And frustrated =
that the information grapevine has been pulled up, shredded and hidden =
behind serial name changes to the point that only some commercial =
growers might know who to ask to find what is behind this.
    Normally apples will drop in July if not well pollenated; perhaps =
because they are competing with other apples which have a full =
complement of seeds. And apples which stick on in spite of one or more =
seed-free carpels will usually be smaller and flat sided.
    These apples were larger than is typical of Gravenstein (suggesting =
heavy thinning) and well rounded, subject to internal breakdown, juicy =
but with bland flavor (probably low in both sugars and acidity). So if =
10 is the rating of a quality Gravenstein these water bags were about a =
3.
    I can only guess how this came about but some thinners act by =
preventing fertilization of weaker blossoms. Possibly, due to secondary =
factors, a thinning spray overthined resulting in so few retained =
blossoms that apples developed in spite of the absence of fully formed =
seeds.

YT, DW, Kentville=20
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  From: rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca=20
  To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
  Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 8:38 AM
  Subject: [NatureNS] An Apple Question


  Hi All=20
  A fellow showed me apples today with no seeds or

  very few at least and grieved that this was caused by lack of =
pollinators.

  Now apples with no seeds are not a bad thing so I got=20

  wondering if the apple blossoms needs to be pollinated to produce

  apples or does the pollination only produce seeds?

  Not a subject that I've had a lot of experience!

  Enjoy the nice juicy fall apples!

  Paul

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<DIV><FONT size=3D6>Hi Paul &amp; All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<FONT size=3D6> I bought some Gravenstein about a =
month ago=20
which also had no fully developed seed and am at a loss to know what is =
going=20
on. And frustrated that the information&nbsp;grapevine has been pulled=20
up,&nbsp;shredded and hidden behind serial name changes to the point =
that only=20
some commercial growers might know who to ask to find what is behind=20
this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT size=3D6>Normally apples will drop in July =
if not=20
well pollenated; perhaps because they are competing with other apples =
which have=20
a full complement of seeds. And apples which stick on in spite of one or =
more=20
seed-free carpels will usually be smaller and flat sided.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT size=3D6>These apples were larger than is =
typical of=20
Gravenstein (suggesting heavy thinning) and well rounded, subject to =
internal=20
breakdown, juicy but with bland flavor (probably low in both sugars and=20
acidity).&nbsp;So if 10 is the rating of a quality Gravenstein these =
water bags=20
were about a 3.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT size=3D6>I can only guess how this came =
about but=20
some thinners act by preventing fertilization of weaker blossoms. =
Possibly, due=20
to secondary factors, a thinning spray overthined resulting in so few =
retained=20
blossoms that apples developed in spite of the absence of fully formed=20
seeds.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D6>YT, DW, Kentville</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] An Apple=20
  Question</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Hi All</SPAN> </DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt">A fellow showed me apples today =
with no=20
  seeds or<BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt">very few at least and grieved =
that this was=20
  caused by lack of pollinators.<BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Now apples with no seeds are not =
a bad=20
  thing so I got <BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt">wondering if the apple blossoms =
needs to be=20
  pollinated to produce<BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt">apples or does the pollination =
only produce=20
  seeds?<BR></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Not a subject that I've had a lot