[NatureNS] sparrows

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    On November 20, 2015 at 11:26 AM &amp;
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Same is true in our daughter=E2=80=99s West Island (Montreal) =
neighbourhood.

From: chris kennedy=20
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 7:06 AM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] sparrows

With all this talk of House Sparrows, I thought I'd mention something I =
noticed this summer while in Toronto, then Philadelphia. In both of =
those cities, I noticed the House Sparrows were more abundant than =
starlings nearly everywhere I went. I could not hypothesize why this =
would be... perhaps someone here knows?=20

-Chris Kennedy in Dartmouth

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 12:15 PM, rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca =
<rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

  One thing not mentioned in the discussion Lance was the use of=20
  road salt. It very effectively wiped out the Hungarian Partridge on =
PEI.

  They went from plentiful to rare in a few years after salt came into =
use.

  They would get gravel for grit along the road and pick up salt.

  The same may have happened to House Sparrows also - come to think of

  it rats - the Norway kind - have had an unlamented decline also.=20
  All 3 species are of the invasive kind. The history of most invasive =
species is=20
  that they thrive for a time and then  die down.

  Enjoy the November rain

  Paul=20

    On November 20, 2015 at 11:26 AM "Laviolette, Lance" =
<lance.laviolette@lmco.com> wrote:=20


    Hi Peter,



    There are undoubtedly a number of factors contributing to the =
decline of House Sparrows. However one factor which has been pointed out =
by studies in the UK is a reduction in the abundance of insects for =
nestlings. Whatever the cause in the decline in insect numbers =
(pesticides, predators, climate change, etc.), the hypothesis goes that =
less insects mean less protein for the young which results in less =
healthy young fledging from the nest. These less fit birds don=E2=80=99t =
survive very well in harsher, winter conditions.=20



    The reason European Starlings are not declining may be attributed to =
their diet also. From the Birds of North America accounts:



    House Sparrow - Insects and other arthropods during breeding season.

    European Starling - Extremely diverse diet that varies =
geographically, with the age of individuals, and with season. Unusual =
abundances of food items=E2=80=A6 garbage, livestock feed, etc. are also =
exploited.



    The diverse diet of starlings gives them a big edge when trying to =
survive and fledge healthy young in areas where no one food type is =
sufficient by itself.



    As Paul mentioned, House Sparrows used to be seen closely associated =
with cows and horses and they still are. However most of the large =
animal operations have now been replaced with intensive agricultural =
crop raising farms. I=E2=80=99d call the resulting corn and soya fields =
deserts compared to the diversity rich pastures and =
=E2=80=98wild=E2=80=99 hay fields that used to be common even 20 years =
ago except deserts are much richer in diversity. House Sparrows have =
gone from being abundant and wide-spread to being locally common over =
that time. In my area in summer they are now focused almost exclusively =
around the few horse stabling operations that we have. In winter they =
show up at my feeders.



    All the best,



    Lance



    Lance Laviolette

    Glen Robertson, Ontario







    From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Hubcove@aol.com
    Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 5:57 PM
    To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
    Subject: EXTERNAL: [NatureNS] sparrows



    In Halifax today and a friend was wondering why sparrows have =
virtually disappeared in the city. While starlings are obviously =
flourishing. Wondered whether anyone had the answer.

    Peter Stow=20

    Hubbards


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<DIV dir=3Dltr>With all this talk of House Sparrows, I thought I'd =
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something I noticed this summer while in Toronto, then Philadelphia. In =
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<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 12:15 PM, <A=20
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