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I haven't found a Bohemian waxwing this winter yet, but I've seen more ceda=
r waxwings than any other winter before. I agree with Ken's analysis of po=
ssibly why these birds have stayed behind. I've been finding cedar waxwing=
s in sizeable groups at many locations within Lunenburg County and they wer=
e also present in Queens and Shelburne County when I visited there. I've h=
ad reports from others within Lunenburg County of flocks of cedar waxwings =
also.
James R. Hirtle
LaHave
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha=
lf of Ken McKenna <kenmcken@eastlink.ca>
Sent: January 17, 2016 12:25 AM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] waxwings and eBIrd records -longish
Hi Richard and all
I rather suspect the eBird report you produced might be a bit misleading. I=
think more waxwings than that were reported to eBIrd but were disqualified=
from entering the general data base because they involve lists reported as=
Christmas Bird Count routes. I have always just kept a running count for e=
ach species as the day progressed on any routes I do on full day counts and=
most times I put in a pretty extensive day often involving some night time=
observations. On CBCS the area tends to be smaller than a spring migration=
count where my route covers a good hunk of western Pictou Co from Pictou t=
o the Colchester border. However, even this type of data does not seem to b=
e of much good or interest to the statisticians in control of eBird. If thi=
s has changed recently or if I am wrong on this, maybe someone will let me =
know
I personally find it annoying that this data is not counted or at least be =
included in the quarterly eBird lists the seasonal editors receive to compi=
le the NS Birds magazine. I find it great to be able to record and compare =
data from one's route from year to year when I do the same sections on the =
counts I do and for many years I do 5-7 counts. For some of the counts this=
year I tried to keep separate lists for each community but I found it easi=
er to lump everything together in getting my total for the evening tally an=
d have not yet got around to filing individual lists for each stop in the d=
ay. At least the birds on CBC will become part of the data on the Audubon d=
atabase but the spring count data does not seem to be published anywhere an=
y more that I can see so the route data I and others submitted has been lo=
st in that it is not counted anywhere making one wonder why do the count at=
all. However it does get people out looking and sometimes different people=
than who do a CBC.
Over the winter period, I have had 2 observations of Bohemian waxwings-1 on=
the Economy CBC and 16 at access road to Big I. However I have 7 reports o=
f 328 cedar waxwings including a flock of 125 in Plymouth below my home on =
the Springville CBC. I checked every bird in this flock through my scope =
for Bohemians and there were none to be found. I would think this report wo=
uld not be in your report Richard.
In past years anyone reporting this number of winter cedars would be asked=
if they checked the flock close enough as Bohemian is the most expected wa=
xwing after November but I think for some reason this year, many cedars hav=
e stayed behind. It might have something to do with the very bountiful supp=
ly of berries such as Hawthorne and Mountain Ash as well as apples be it fl=
owering crab or Apple trees which seemed to have a lot of fruit this winter=
.
Enjoy winter nature
Ken
Ken McKenna
Plymouth Pictou co.
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 16, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Richard Stern <sternrichard@gmail.com<mailto:s=
ternrichard@gmail.com>> wrote:
Looking at Ebird data for Dec. 2015 - Feb. 2016, there are so far just 3 re=
ports of Bohemian waxwing - 15 Big Island (Pictou Co) 8 Jan., 2 East Kemptv=
ille., 9 Jan, 250 Big Island same day. For Cedar waxwing there are 20 repor=
ts, with some of up to 75 birds, from a variety of areas - mostly places wi=
th lots of birders.
Richard
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Ken McKenna <kenmcken@eastlink.ca<mailto:k=
enmcken@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
Be careful of how much you put down on your bet Jim. There seem to be more =
Cedars than Bohemians this winter although both are being seen.
Cheers
Ken
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 16, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Jim Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca<mailto:jim=
wolford@eastlink.ca>> wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
From: Jim Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca<mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca>>
Subject: waxwings, east Wolfville
Date: January 16, 2016 at 2:51:02 PM AST
To: Nature BNS <nature@blomidonnaturalists.ca<mailto:nature@blomidonnatural=
ists.ca>>
Cc: Jim Wolford <jimwolford@eastlink.ca<mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca>>
JAN. 16, 2016 - Pat called me to the window at 1 p.m., to show me a large f=
lock of 75+ waxwings, which sat in our trees but just too far away for diag=
nosis for 15 minutes or so, then flew away. I'll bet they were Bohemians, =
but someone else will have to determine that. Also present were 30+ goldfi=
nches, 15+ mourning doves, 4 rock pigeons, and 10 starlings. This was in t=
he Woodman apartment buildings at east-end Wolfville.
Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.
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Dr.R.B.Stern,
P.O. Box 300,
Port Williams,
N.S., Canada,
B0P 1T0
Richard Stern,
Port Williams, NS, Canada
sternrichard@gmail.com<mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com>
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<p>I haven't found a Bohemian waxwing this winter yet, but I've seen more c=
edar waxwings than any other winter before. I agree with Ken's analys=
is of possibly why these birds have stayed behind. I've been finding =
cedar waxwings in sizeable groups at many
locations within Lunenburg County and they were also present in Queens and=
Shelburne County when I visited there. I've had reports from others =
within Lunenburg County of flocks of cedar waxwings also.
</p>
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<p>James R. Hirtle</p>
<p>LaHave<br>
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<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calib=
ri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> naturens-owner@cheb=
ucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on behalf of Ken McKenna &=
lt;kenmcken@eastlink.ca><br>
<b>Sent:</b> January 17, 2016 12:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] waxwings and eBIrd records -longish</font>
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<div>
<div>Hi Richard and all</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I rather suspect the eBird report you produc=
ed might be a bit misleading. I think more waxwings than that were reported=
to eBIrd but were disqualified from entering the general data base because=
they involve lists reported as Christmas
Bird Count routes. I have always just kept a running count for each specie=
s as the day progressed on any routes I do on full day counts and most time=
s I put in a pretty extensive day often involving some night time observati=
ons. On CBCS the area tends to be
smaller than a spring migration count where my route covers a good hunk of=
western Pictou Co from Pictou to the Colchester border. However, even this=
type of data does not seem to be of much good or interest to the statistic=
ians in control of eBird. If this
has changed recently or if I am wrong on this, maybe someone will let me k=
now</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I personally find it annoying that this data=
is not counted or at least be included in the quarterly eBird lists the se=
asonal editors receive to compile the NS Birds magazine. I find it great to=
be able to record and compare data
from one's route from year to year when I do the same sections on the coun=
ts I do and for many years I do 5-7 counts. For some of the counts this yea=
r I tried to keep separate lists for each community but I found it easier t=
o lump everything together in getting
my total for the evening tally and have not yet got around to filing indiv=
idual lists for each stop in the day. At least the birds on CBC will become=
part of the data on the Audubon database but the spring count data does no=
t seem to be published anywhere
any more that I can see so the route data I and others submitted has=
been lost in that it is not counted anywhere making one wonder why do the =
count at all. However it does get people out looking and sometimes differen=
t people than who do a CBC. </div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Over the winter period, I have had 2 observa=
tions of Bohemian waxwings-1 on the Economy CBC and 16 at access road to Bi=
g I. However I have 7 reports of 328 cedar waxwings including a flock of 12=
5 in Plymouth below my home on the
Springville CBC. I checked every bird in this flock through my=
scope for Bohemians and there were none to be found. I would think this re=
port would not be in your report Richard.</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"> In past years anyone reporting this nu=
mber of winter cedars would be asked if they checked the flock close enough=
as Bohemian is the most expected waxwing after November but I think for so=
me reason this year, many cedars have stayed
behind. It might have something to do with the very bountiful supply of be=
rries such as Hawthorne and Mountain Ash as well as apples be it flowering =
crab or Apple trees which seemed to have a lot of fruit this winter. =
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Enjoy winter nature </div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Ken </div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Ken McKenna</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Plymouth Pictou co. <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div><br>
On Jan 16, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Richard Stern <<a href=3D"mailto:sternricha=
rd@gmail.com">sternrichard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Looking at Ebird data for Dec. 2015 - Feb. 2016, there are=
so far just 3 reports of Bohemian waxwing - 15 Big Island (Pictou Co) 8 Ja=
n., 2 East Kemptville., 9 Jan, 250 Big Island same day. For Cedar waxwing t=
here are 20 reports, with some of
up to 75 birds, from a variety of areas - mostly places with lots of birde=
rs.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Richard</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Ken McKenna <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">
<<a href=3D"mailto:kenmcken@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_blank">kenmcken@east=
link.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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ng-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px=
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<div>Be careful of how much you put down on your bet Jim. There seem to be =
more Cedars than Bohemians this winter although both are being seen. <=
/div>
<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Ken<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPad
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
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<div class=3D"h5">
<div><br>
On Jan 16, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Jim Wolford <<a href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@e=
astlink.ca" target=3D"_blank">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div><br>
<div><br>
<div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
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<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: "Helvetica&quo=
t;;"><b>From: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: "Helvetica";=
">Jim Wolford <<a href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_blan=
k">jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: "Helvetica&quo=
t;;"><b>Subject: </b>
</span><span style=3D"font-family: "Helvetica";"><b>waxwings, eas=
t Wolfville</b><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: "Helvetica&quo=
t;;"><b>Date: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: "Helvetica";=
">January 16, 2016 at 2:51:02 PM AST<br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: "Helvetica&quo=
t;;"><b>To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: "Helvetica";">=
Nature BNS <<a href=3D"mailto:nature@blomidonnaturalists.ca" target=3D"_=
blank">nature@blomidonnaturalists.ca</a>><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: "Helvetica&quo=
t;;"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: "Helvetica";">=
Jim Wolford <<a href=3D"mailto:jimwolford@eastlink.ca" target=3D"_blank"=
>jimwolford@eastlink.ca</a>><br>
</span></div>
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<div style=3D"margin: 0px;"><b>JAN. 16, 2016</b> - Pat called me to the win=
dow at 1 p.m., to show me a large flock of
<b>75+ waxwings</b>, which sat in our trees but just too far away for d=
iagnosis for 15 minutes or so, then flew away. I’ll bet they we=
re Bohemians, but someone else will have to determine that. Also pres=
ent were 30+ goldfinches, 15+ mourning doves, 4 rock
pigeons, and 10 starlings. This was in the Woodman apartment buildin=
gs at east-end Wolfville.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.</div>
</div>
</div>
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Dr.R.B.Stern, <br>
P.O. Box 300,<br>
Port Williams,<br>
N.S., Canada,<br>
B0P 1T0<br>
Richard Stern, <br>
Port Williams, NS, Canada<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">sternrichard@gm=
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