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=E2=80=A6 and nature doesn=E2=80=99t have a voice and its well-being is pro=
bably crucial to the well-being of our great grandchildren!
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] =
On Behalf Of Nicholas Hill
Sent: February 4, 2016 4:28 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide... GMO crop=
s and loss of weedy species -Chemical fertilizer
this supposed contrast between forest and arable land lacks logic.
1. woodland does get depleted as a lot of Ca is in organic form and we alre=
ady said 27% lost per full harvest and Ca critically low in NS and losses e=
xacerbated by acidification
2. farmland is fertilized, gets depleted, it is limed. Farmland gets leache=
d, nutrients and soil goes into rivers. Witness Cornwallis River, the Missi=
ssippi and the dead zone Gulf of Mexico, or the nitrate in the well water i=
n the UK.
Let's quit here before we are dragged through another illogical gyre.
Point made that we don't want to lose: We are concerned with state of natur=
e and where forestry or agriculture threaten that, naturalists have a voice=
and will use it.
Nick
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 3:50 PM, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>=
wrote:
Hi All Again,
Strange fate indeed when some fret about depletion of Ca in woodland , =
where trees can absorb year round, but imagine annual arable crops, which m=
ust absorb everything in few months, can be extracted forever without repla=
cement of nutrients.
The key in all things is moderation and common sense. And if manure is =
available all the better. We used to farm 20-30 acres with manure, recycled=
from meadow hay, and 2-3 bags of fertilizer for special needs. So we were =
mostly organic but not too pig-headed to buy fertilizer with added B when t=
he turnips failed to do well etc. The term organic farming was unknown, at =
least to us, manure was free and mineral fertilizer was not free so we used=
it sparingly; not because it was against our religion but because not usin=
g it saved scarce money.
For years as a kid we had a very prolific "Organic" Rhubarb patch; smot=
hered each fall with about 8" of fresh horse manure held in place by posts =
and boards over winter. By the following fall, after removal of the boards =
in spring, the action of weather and hens had worn it out to ground level. =
This provided hen feed, weed control and excellent Rhubarb.
Yt, DW
----- Original Message -----
From: David Patriquin <mailto:davidgpatriquin@yahoo.ca>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide... GMO crop=
s and loss of weedy species -Chemical fertilizer
=E2=80=9CChemical fertilizer is like heroin..." sounds familiar.
In a text published in 1897, Issac Roberts provides many pieces of caution =
about use of fertilizers and noted " ...the effect of fertilizers was liken=
ed to the effect of alcohol on the confirmed toper; but to stop meant colla=
pse and to go on implied constantly increased use."
The Fertility of the Land. Roberts, I.P. The MacMillan Co. 1897.
In the early 1900s, Albert Howard observed that the new "artificials" cause=
d increased disease in crops and livestock and began to define the alternat=
ive approaches of organic agriculture. Interestingly, writers in the 1940s =
expressed great optimism that the chemical era was about to end but as we =
know today it was just getting geared up....
_____
From: John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide... GMO crop=
s and loss of weedy species
I remember hearing a rice farmer in Northeast Thailand make a similar comme=
nt about inorganic fertilizer.
Literal translation:
=E2=80=9CChemical fertilizer is like heroin. When you start, you cannot st=
op and have to use more and more.=E2=80=9D
This is an area with horrendously lousy soil, including super--horrendously=
low organic content.
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] =
On Behalf Of David Patriquin
Sent: February 4, 2016 11:09 AM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide... GMO crop=
s and loss of weedy species
The weeds close to the crop are only problematical if you dont start with a=
clean seedbed and/or heavily fertilize the seedbed before planting the cro=
p, which favours the weeds. Start with a clean seedbed and postpone fertili=
zation, and ...OK
it's a treadmill. You start using herbicides and then you breed crops that =
are not competitive with weeds.. so yes those crops are very difficult to c=
ontrol mechanically although it can be done. Mechanical tillage can be very=
sophisticated. As well, we separate crops and livestock so we dont want st=
raw, so shorter cereals are OK. Separated livestock and crops results in ma=
ssive aquatic pollution-- we pay for that indirectly. Real cost accounting =
would not rate GMO crops more cost efficient today and their costs have gon=
e up as more resistance develops.
We have created an industrial production system that is part of our social =
fabric... it's not easy to re-evaluate.. and pursue a new tack but we need =
to start looking at it. Those gigantic fields of GMO maize, soy and cannola=
may give us "cheaper food" but we are paying for it in many other ways.
_____
From: "rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca" <rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide... GMO crop=
s and loss of weedy species
The reason Herbicides are so much better from a farmers point of view
David is that herbicides kill the weeds close to the planted crop.
The weeds in the middle of the rows are not very harmful and are easy
to control by cultivation.
However the weeds close to the plants cause the reduction in yields.
They rob moisture, nutrients sunlight and harbour insects but there
is no way a farmer can remove them by cultivation. short of the old hand ho=
e.
In addition they make harvesting more difficult by not allowing the crop
to dry out in the short days of fall.
Farmers tell me herbicides give the best return on investment of
all their inputs. But maybe we would like to pay more for food!
Enjoy the thaw
Paul
On February 4, 2016 at 8:33 AM David Patriquin <davidgpatriquin@yahoo.ca> w=
rote:
Incororating resistance to Roundup & now a couple of other herbicides (beca=
use weeds also becoming resistant) in GMO crops has one huge effect on wild=
life that I don't see discussed much or at all: the complete obliteration o=
f weedy species over massive areas, not seen much in NS but go to Que and O=
nt where field after large field of GMO soybean, maize and cannola are grow=
n, and they are virtually dead except for the crops; even after the crops a=
re taken off they remain free of weedy species. Under traditional managemen=
t, weeds were set back by tillage to allow crop to get established, then a =
diversity of weedy species grow up in the understory, flowering and providi=
ng food for pollinators, seeds for wildlife.. and after the crop is taken o=
ff, groundcover. No more so. The farmers like the GMO crops because of the =
simplified management, but with selection of appropriate cultivars, some me=
chanical management, reducing some types of tillage...weeds can be controll=
ed without eliminating them and our farm fields can be more supportive of w=
ildlife.
Glyphosate is toxic to plants and bacteria, so has huge effects on the micr=
obiotia also..
Agreed, Nick: " As naturalists, impacts on natural world are our major resp=
onsibility."
_____
From: Nicholas Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com>
To: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide Atrazine in=
Canada: a re-evaluation
David,
no confusion here. Listserve focus is on nature not human safety. Atrazine =
article deals with human safety concerns not biodiversity.
If we want to take a stand on pesticides it would be for their biodiversity=
implications of which there are tons. Roundup is an example but there are =
many
showing impacts of other pesticides on native bees and other pollinators.
Nick
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1890/04-1291/abstract
http://www.jstor.org/stable/40983228?seq=3D1#page_scan_tab_contents
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:02 PM, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>=
wrote:
Hi Nick,
The item dealt with Atrazine not Roundup. Best not to confuse matters.=
=20
Dave W
----- Original Message -----
From: Nicholas Hill <mailto:fernhillns@gmail.com>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide Atrazine in=
Canada: a re-evaluation
Gyphosate (roundup) going under radar despite the lethal impacts of amphibi=
an larvae (ca 98% kill) from the surfactant used to get the pesticide acros=
s the plant's cuticle.
Not supposed to be used near water courses but amphibians are in swampy woo=
ds.
As naturalists, impacts on natural world are our major responsibility. Phys=
icians (royal...Ontario. .forget the association) did take a stand against=
recreational and household usage of pesticide on the basis of human health=
risk. We can stand up for nature.
Nick
On Feb 3, 2016 5:59 PM, "N Robinson" < nrobbyn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
A member of the Quebec branch of the Sierra Club just sent me an email reg=
arding Canada's Pest Management Regulatory Agency doing a re-evaluation of =
the pesticide Atrazine (announced December 15 2015).
Some of you, more knowledgeable than I, might want to send them some feedba=
ck.
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/cps-spc/pest/part/consultations/_rev2015-11/rev201=
5-11-eng.php
Re-evaluation Note REV2015-11, Special Review of Atrazine: Proposed Decisio=
n for Consultation
Nancy
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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=E2=80=A6=
and nature doesn=E2=80=99t have a voice and its well-being is probably cru=
cial to the well-being of our great grandchildren!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sa=
ns-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-s=
erif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens=
-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicholas Hill<br><b>Sent:</b> Fe=
bruary 4, 2016 4:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br><b>Subject:=
</b> Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide... GMO crops an=
d loss of weedy species -Chemical fertilizer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>this supposed c=
ontrast between forest and arable land lacks logic.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>1. wo=
odland does get depleted as a lot of Ca is in organic form and we already s=
aid 27% lost per full harvest and Ca critically low in NS and losses exacer=
bated by acidification<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>2. far=
mland is fertilized, gets depleted, it is limed. Farmland gets leached, nut=
rients and soil goes into rivers. Witness Cornwallis River, the Mississippi=
and the dead zone Gulf of Mexico, or the nitrate in the well water in the =
UK.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Let's quit here before we are dragged through a=
nother illogical gyre.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&=
nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Point made that we don't wan=
t to lose: We are concerned with state of nature and where forestry or agri=
culture threaten that, naturalists have a voice and will use it.<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal>Nick<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> =
;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>O=
n Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 3:50 PM, David & Alison Webster <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:dwebster@glinx.com" target=3D"_blank">dwebster@glinx.com</a>> wrote=
:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi All Again,<o:p></o:p></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal> Strange fate indeed when=
some fret about depletion of Ca in woodland , where trees can absorb year =
round, but imagine annual arable crops, which must absorb everything in few=
months, can be extracted forever without replacement of nutrients.<o:=
p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal> The key in a=
ll things is moderation and common sense. And if manure is available all th=
e better. We used to farm 20-30 acres with manure, recycled from =
meadow hay, and 2-3 bags of fertilizer for special needs. So we were m=
ostly organic but not too pig-headed to buy fertilizer with added B when th=
e turnips failed to do well etc. The term organic farming was unk=
nown, at least to us, manure was free and mineral fertilizer was not free s=
o we used it sparingly; not because it was against our religion but because=
not using it saved scarce money. <o:p></o:p></p></div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal> For years as a kid we had a very =
prolific "Organic" Rhubarb patch; smothered each fall with a=
bout 8" of fresh horse manure held in place by posts and boards over w=
inter. By the following fall, after removal of the boards in spring, the ac=
tion of weather and hens had worn it out to ground level. This provided hen=
feed, weed control and excellent Rhubarb.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal>Yt, DW<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;b=
order-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;m=
argin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----=
- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href=3D"mailto:davidgpatriquin@yahoo.=
ca" target=3D"_blank" title=3D"davidgpatriquin@yahoo.ca">David Patriquin</a=
> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href=3D"mailto:n=
aturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank" title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca"=
>naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"=
'>Sent:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans=
-serif"'> Thursday, February 04, 2016 12:49 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of =
pesticide... GMO crops and loss of weedy species -Chemical fertilizer<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div>=
<div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>=E2=80=9CC=
hemical fertilizer is like heroin..." sounds familiar. </span><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:bla=
ck'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'backgrou=
nd:white'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-ser=
if";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"T=
imes","serif";color:black'>In a text published in 1897, Issac Roberts =
provides many pieces of caution about use of fertilizers and noted " .=
..the effect of fertilizers was likened to the effect of alcohol on the con=
firmed toper; but to stop meant collapse and to go on implied constantly in=
creased use." </span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt=
;font-family:"Times","serif";color:black'> <i>The Fertility of the Lan=
d.</i> Roberts, I.P. The MacMillan Co. 1897.</span><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'backg=
round:white'><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times","serif";co=
lor:black'>In the early 1900s, Albert Howard observed that the new "ar=
tificials" caused increased disease in crops and livestock and began t=
o define the alternative approaches of organic agriculture. Interestingly, =
writers in the 1940s expressed great optimism that the chemical era was abo=
ut to end but as we know today it was just getting geared up....=
</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"=
;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p></div><div><div><div><div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D=
'text-align:center;background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=3D1 width=3D"100%" align=
=3Dcenter></span></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><b><=
span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black=
'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans=
-serif";color:black'> John and Nhung <<a href=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastli=
nk.ca" target=3D"_blank">nhungjohn@eastlink.ca</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns=
.ca</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 4, 2016 12:14 PM<br><b>Subject:=
</b> RE: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of pesticide... GMO crops an=
d loss of weedy species</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-=
serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-seri=
f";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I remember hearing a rice farme=
r in Northeast Thailand make a similar comment about inorganic fertilizer.<=
/span><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white=
'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o=
:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whi=
te'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";co=
lor:black'>Literal translation:</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica=
","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMso=
Normal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","s=
ans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>=E2=80=9CChemical fertilizer is =
like heroin. When you start, you cannot stop and have to use more and=
more.=E2=80=9D </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";=
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";colo=
r:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetic=
a","sans-serif";color:black'>This is an area with horrendously lousy soil, =
including super--horrendously low organic content. </span><span style=
=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p=
></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'=
font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span><=
/p></div><div><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt=
;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:w=
hite'><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetic=
a","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href=
=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens-owner@=
chebucto.ns.ca</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca"=
target=3D"_blank">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>D=
avid Patriquin<br><b>Sent:</b> February 4, 2016 11:09 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a h=
ref=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.=
ns.ca</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re use of p=
esticide... GMO crops and loss of weedy species</span><span style=3D'font-f=
amily:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></d=
iv></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=
=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'=
><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color=
:black'>The weeds close to the crop are only problematical if you dont star=
t with a clean seedbed and/or heavily fertilize the seedbed before planting=
the crop, which favours the weeds. Start with a clean seedbed and postpone=
fertilization, and ...OK</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","san=
s-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helveti=
ca","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>it's a treadmil=
l. You start using herbicides and then you breed crops that are not competi=
tive with weeds.. so yes those crops are very difficult to control mechanic=
ally although it can be done. Mechanical tillage can be very sophisticated.=
As well, we separate crops and livestock so we dont want straw, so shorter=
cereals are OK. Separated livestock and crops results in massive aquatic p=
ollution-- we pay for that indirectly. Real cost accounting would not rate =
GMO crops more cost efficient today and their costs have gone up as more re=
sistance develops. </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans=
-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helveti=
ca","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>We have created=
an industrial production system that is part of our social fabric... it's =
not easy to re-evaluate.. and pursue a new tack but we need to start lookin=
g at it. Those gigantic fields of GMO maize, soy and cannola may give us &q=
uot;cheaper food" but we are paying for it in many other ways.</span><=
span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:w=
hite'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";colo=
r:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","san=
s-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helveti=
ca","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div s=
tyle=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whit=
e'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <=
o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div class=3DMsoNormal=
align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center;background:white'><span style=3D=
'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=3D1 width=3D"10=
0%" align=3Dcenter></span></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'backgrou=
nd:white'><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-=
serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> "<a href=3D"mailto:rita.pa=
ul@ns.sympatico.ca" target=3D"_blank">rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca</a>" &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca" target=3D"_blank">rita.paul=
@ns.sympatico.ca</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.=
ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thurs=
day, February 4, 2016 9:35 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] Public cons=
ultation re use of pesticide... GMO crops and loss of weedy species</span><=
span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:w=
hite'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal styl=
e=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";=
color:black'>The reason Herbicides are so much better from a farmers =
point of view <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans=
-serif";color:black'>David is that herbicides kill the weeds close to the p=
lanted crop. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-=
serif";color:black'>The weeds in the middle of the rows are not very harmfu=
l and are easy <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","san=
s-serif";color:black'>to control by cultivation. <o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span sty=
le=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>However the weeds c=
lose to the plants cause the reduction in yields. <o:p></o:p></span></p></d=
iv></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span st=
yle=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>They rob moisture,=
nutrients sunlight and harbour insects but there <o:p></o:p></span></p></d=
iv></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span st=
yle=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>is no way a farmer=
can remove them by cultivation. short of the old hand hoe. <o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white=
'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>In addit=
ion they make harvesting more difficult by not allowing the crop <o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:=
white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>to =
dry out in the short days of fall. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-fam=
ily:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Farmers tell me herbicides give t=
he best return on investment of <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family=
:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>all their inputs. But maybe we would=
like to pay more for food! <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"He=
lvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Enjoy the thaw <o:p></o:p></span></p></d=
iv></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span st=
yle=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Paul <o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whi=
te'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-=
left:solid blue 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:0cm;margin-top:=
5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:wh=
ite'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On Fe=
bruary 4, 2016 at 8:33 AM David Patriquin <<a href=3D"mailto:davidgpatri=
quin@yahoo.ca" target=3D"_blank">davidgpatriquin@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote: <o=
:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helveti=
ca","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><s=
pan style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:wh=
ite'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";c=
olor:black'> </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-seri=
f";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Incororating resistance to Roundup =
& now a couple of other herbicides (because weeds also becoming resista=
nt) in GMO crops has one huge effect on wildlife that I don't see discussed=
much or at all: the complete obliteration of weedy species over massive ar=
eas, not seen much in NS but go to Que and Ont where field after large fiel=
d of GMO soybean, maize and cannola are grown, and they are virtually dead =
except for the crops; even after the crops are taken off they remain free o=
f weedy species. Under traditional management, weeds were set back by tilla=
ge to allow crop to get established, then a diversity of weedy species grow=
up in the understory, flowering and providing food for pollinators, seeds =
for wildlife.. and after the crop is taken off, groundcover. No more so. Th=
e farmers like the GMO crops because of the simplified management, but with=
selection of appropriate cultivars, some mechanical management, reducing s=
ome types of tillage...weeds can be controlled without eliminating them and=
our farm fields can be more supportive of wildlife. </span><span sty=
le=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:bl=
ack'> </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";colo=
r:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helv=
etica","sans-serif";color:black'>Glyphosate is toxic to plants and bacteria=
, so has huge effects on the microbiotia also.. </span><span style=3D'font-=
family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></=
div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbs=
p; </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>=
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'b=
ackground:white'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","s=
ans-serif";color:black'>Agreed, Nick: " </span><span style=3D'font-fam=
ily:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>As naturalists, impacts on natura=
l world are our major responsibility."</span><span style=3D'font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span styl=
e=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span st=
yle=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-=
serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div>=
<div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center;backg=
round:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'><hr size=3D1 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter></span></div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><strong><span style=3D'font-family:"He=
lvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></strong><span style=3D'font=
-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> Nicholas Hill <<a href=3D=
"mailto:fernhillns@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">fernhillns@gmail.com</a>>=
;<br><strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>To:</span=
></strong> "<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blan=
k">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebuct=
o.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>> <br><strong><spa=
n style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></strong> Thur=
sday, February 4, 2016 7:32 AM<br><strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Helve=
tica","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></strong> Re: [NatureNS] Public consulta=
tion re use of pesticide Atrazine in Canada: a re-evaluation<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white=
'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o=
:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";colo=
r:black'>David, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-ser=
if";color:black'>no confusion here. Listserve focus is on nature not human =
safety. Atrazine article deals with human safety concerns not biodiversity.=
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'=
background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color=
:black'>If we want to take a stand on pesticides it would be for their biod=
iversity implications of which there are tons. Roundup is an example but th=
ere are many <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-=
serif";color:black'>showing impacts of other pesticides on native bees and =
other pollinators. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",=
"sans-serif";color:black'>Nick <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:=
"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></=
div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=
=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href=3D"http://onl=
inelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1890/04-1291/abstract" target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1890/04-1291/abstract</a> <o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a href=3D"http:=
//www.jstor.org/stable/40983228?seq=3D1#page_scan_tab_contents" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.jstor.org/stable/40983228?seq=3D1#page_scan_tab_contents<=
/a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'bac=
kground:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:bl=
ack'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-fam=
ily:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'f=
ont-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:0=
2 PM, David & Alison Webster <<a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com" =
target=3D"_blank">dwebster@glinx.com</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p><=
/div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span s=
tyle=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi Nick, <o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'backgroun=
d:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp; The item dealt with Atrazine not Roundup. Best not t=
o confuse matters. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helve=
tica","sans-serif";color:black'>Dave W <o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><=
span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'backg=
round:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquo=
te style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4=
.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0=
pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:#E4E4E4'><strong><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:bla=
ck'>From:</span></strong><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helve=
tica","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href=3D"mailto:fernhillns@gmail.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">Nicholas Hill</a> </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvet=
ica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><strong><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></=
strong><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"=
;color:black'> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank"=
>naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a> </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",=
"sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><strong><span style=3D'font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></str=
ong><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";co=
lor:black'> Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:12 PM </span><span style=3D'font=
-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><=
/div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><strong><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>Subject:</span></strong><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Hel=
vetica","sans-serif";color:black'> Re: [NatureNS] Public consultation re us=
e of pesticide Atrazine in Canada: a re-evaluation </span><span style=3D'fo=
nt-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'>=
<span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'back=
ground:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:bla=
ck'>Gyphosate (roundup) going under radar despite the lethal impacts of amp=
hibian larvae (ca 98% kill) from the surfactant used to get the pesticide a=
cross the plant's cuticle. <br>Not supposed to be used near water courses b=
ut amphibians are in swampy woods. <br>As naturalists, impacts on natural w=
orld are our major responsibility. Physicians (royal...Ontario. .forget the=
association) did take a stand against recreational and household usa=
ge of pesticide on the basis of human health risk. We can stand up for natu=
re. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";c=
olor:black'>Nick <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMso=
Normal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","s=
ans-serif";color:black'>On Feb 3, 2016 5:59 PM, "N Robinson" <=
<a href=3D"mailto:nrobbyn@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">nrobbyn@gmail.com</=
a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D=
'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><spa=
n style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Hello everyone=
, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"He=
lvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> A member of the Quebec branch of t=
he Sierra Club just sent me an email regarding Canada's Pest Management Reg=
ulatory Agency doing a re-evaluation of the pesticide Atrazine (announced D=
ecember 15 2015). <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al style=3D'background:white'><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-=
serif";color:black'>Some of you, more knowledgeable than I, might want to s=
end them some feedback. <br><br> <a href=3D"http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/cp=
s-spc/pest/part/consultations/_rev2015-11/rev2015-11-eng.php" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/cps-spc/pest/part/consultations/_rev2015-11/rev=
2015-11-eng.php</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><h1 style=3D'background:whi=
te'><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";co=
lor:black'>Re-evaluation Note REV2015-11, Special Review of Atrazine: Propo=
sed Decision for Consultation</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",=
"sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></h1></div><div><p class=3DMsoN=
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ns-serif";color:black'>Nancy <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div>=
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