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>> On February 8, 2016 at 8:21 AM David --001a1143abf6d73b2b052b4ac0c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable as you will On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:06 PM, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote: > Nick, > I am not aware of any ot these places being wooded then and > subsequently converted to agriculture. I do recall collecting in hardwood= s > on Salmon ancient floodplains, well above 50s flood levels, soon to be > stripped for gravel; not agriculture. > Meadows which frequently flood in summer and are nearly always > flooded over winter don't support trees. > DW > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Nicholas Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com> > *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > *Sent:* Monday, February 08, 2016 3:47 PM > *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] two trees to buy a pizza or would we rather a > car with the same two trees? > > you guys back in the EC Smith days covered the province... > Oxford's R Phillip, Meander, Kennetcook, Gaspereau > Salmon...we can go on and we should > > Wherever it was fertile > > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:25 PM, David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.co= m > > wrote: > >> Hi Nick, >> Where were floodplains converted to agriculture in NS ? A smattering >> in NB but none is NS that I am aware of. Some Salmon River floodplains w= ere >> mined for gravel when the 100 series highways were built near there and = I >> think some floodplains near Oxford were mined. >> Floodplains are enriched by the silt deposited by floodwaters each >> year; e.g. Nile, Tigrus not by trees which may take advantage of the >> enriched soil. >> Yt, DW >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Nicholas Hill <fernhillns@gmail.com> >> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >> *Sent:* Monday, February 08, 2016 2:53 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] two trees to buy a pizza or would we rather a >> car with the same two trees? >> >> Hey John >> yes tree roots are purported to be amazing N and P pumps and can take up >> nutrients before they reach waterways..90% range according to Maltby who >> was working on big rivers of Europe. >> when you lose trees you lose these pumps and go to lower functional >> states and herbaceous plants arent a lick on trees. >> >> The tree was an engineer of floodplains in big ways and we lost a lot of >> that when we converted floodplain for agriculture. This floodplain fores= t >> is what supports a good group of the Appalachian Deciduous Forest >> species..bloodroot, blue cohosh Canada violet (?) wild coffee, Canada Li= ly, >> wild garlic, yellow violets, toothwort, Solomon's plume..and this is the >> habitat we need right now to let us preserve the diversity that is >> expanding northward and may be eliminated from Kentucky in time. I'm >> looking forward to being able to eat pawpaws, crush spicebush leaves and >> swing on forest grape vines in my nineties in Nova Scotia but first we n= eed >> to secure and restore floodplain habitat. >> >> must be midwinter >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:05 PM, David & Alison Webster < >> dwebster@glinx.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi John & All, >>> Any deep-rooted plant will move nutrients to the surface if that is >>> what you mean. Grasses are in general better than trees because their f= ine >>> roots can penetrate the pores of rigid soils not accessible to tree roo= ts. >>> This is why Agropyron repens (Couch) is such a vigorous weed. And why t= he >>> fertility of Prairie soil is immense. >>> Yt, DW >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> >>> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >>> *Sent:* Monday, February 08, 2016 12:06 PM >>> *Subject:* RE: [NatureNS] two trees to buy a pizza or would we rather a >>> car with the same two trees? >>> >>> When I was a CUSO volunteer in Northeast Thailand, thirty-odd years ago= , >>> our country Director (a soil scientist by training) called trees =E2=80= =9Cnutrient >>> pumps.=E2=80=9D >>> >>> >>> >>> Made eminent sense in an area with terrible soils, with minimal organic >>> content. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto: >>> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] *On Behalf Of *Nicholas Hill >>> *Sent:* February 8, 2016 11:44 AM >>> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca >>> *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] two trees to buy a pizza or would we rather a >>> car with the same two trees? >>> >>> >>> >>> Trees have been called environmental engineers as they make habitat and >>> set up the food web. We are very lucky to have neighbours that let us w= alk >>> and bring kids through their woods that are in good condition with larg= e >>> mature trees of pines and hemlock. We saw the strips of tree felling fr= om >>> the microbursts that we called the Berwick Blow of a few winters ago th= at >>> took out some 200 year old hemlock but we also see blow down along a li= ne >>> between two properties where still another neighbour has clearcut and i= t >>> has made it not possible to ski in the adjacent uncut property over a 4= 0m >>> width due to blow down. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:06 AM, David & Alison Webster < >>> dwebster@glinx.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Dusan, >>> >>> Yes and no. A sufficiently high wind can mow a swath through >>> undisturbed forest. And counting Dec 13, 2010 (ignoring Juan because it= was >>> local) we have had two high winds recently; one even in May, 2013 (?). = And >>> many winds which finish the job or start fresh ones. >>> >>> The Kentville ravine is a good example; the 2010 wind felled a >>> significant area of Hemlock/hardwood. In my woods more Poplar went over >>> than 5 households could use both as 'scattered' trees of up to 6 in one >>> domino and two areas (~1 acre & 2 acres) where nearly every tree went >>> down. Most large Spruce which survived 2010 were taken in 2013. >>> >>> >>> >>> I