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Index of Subjects --001a113f979417a20c05419627ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Geese need love too ;) Helene Helene Van Doninck DVM Cobequid Wildlife Rehabilitation Centre 2220 Irwin Lake Rd Brookfield NS Canada B0N1C0 902-893-0253 helene.birdvet@gmail.com <birdvet@hotmail.com> www.cwrc.net Find us on Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cobequid-Wildlife-Rehabilitation-Centre/134= 671693239334> and Twitter <https://twitter.com/CobequiWildlife> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Laviolette, Lance < lance.laviolette@lmco.com> wrote: > Hi Fred, > > Perisoreus canadensis canadensis, that's a lot of Canadian content packed > into one bird. Inevitably a name had to be chosen for the species and > Canada Jay could have been the name. For the majority of Canadians, > subspecies are not differentiated but if an English name was needed for P= . > c. canadensis subspecies then it could have been Gray Jay. > > Common names were rarely, if ever, universal so that fact that Wi-akajak, > W=C3=ACsakedj=C3=A0k, W=C4=ABhsakec=C4=81hkw, Wiisagejaak, Inktonme, Nana= bozho, Whiskey Jack, > Camp Robber, Gray Jay, Meat Bird, White-headed Jay, Oregon Jay and numero= us > others have been used to identify this species is not important to this > discussion. What is important is that not only is Gray Jay a bland, > non-inspiring choice of an English name for such a great bird but in its > current form it is spelled incorrectly for Canadian consumption. The Fren= ch > name has it right, M=C3=A9sangeai du Canada and it=E2=80=99s time the Eng= lish name moved > out of the last century and into the present one. > > I have to agree with Wayne. To paraphrase Frodo Baggins, the name was > taken and hidden away, never to be spoken of again. However, like that > famous gold ring he was speaking of, Canada Jay keeps popping up again in > the memory of Canadian birders. > > There are few enough birds with Canada as part of their name but a whole > lot with American. I know it is SUPPOSED to stand for North American but = I > always imagine American (as in the United States of AMERICA) Ornithologis= ts > quietly laughing about it behind closed doors. Would bringing the number = of > birds with Canada in their name back up to the enormous total of three > really be that much of a crime? > > I'll tell you what=E2=80=A6 why don't we offer an exchange? The AMERICAN > Ornithologists Union can reinstate Canada Jay to its rightful place in th= e > pantheon of bird names and we will 'sacrifice' Canada Goose to them. They > can call the illustrious poop factory Gray Goose or even American Goose i= f > they'd like. > > All the best, > > Lance > > Lance Laviolette > Glen Robertson, Ontario > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca= ] > On Behalf Of Fred Schueler > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:43 AM > To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [NatureNS] Re: Choice For Our 'National Bird' > ...The Gray Jay > > On 11/18/2016 1:20 AM, Wayne P. Neily wrote: > > > / Perisoreus canadensis/, M=C3=A9sangeai du Canada, Canada Jay, or it= s > > Algonkin name of 'wis-akajak' is a great choice for our national bird, > > but let's resist calling it what the AMERICAN Ornithologists' > > Union changed its name to. They not only stole our name of Canada Jay > > and hid it, but to add insult to injury, they used the US mis-spelling > > of "grey"! > > * in the fussing about the loss of 'Canada Jay' as a name, no one mention= s > that this was a result of the 1953 decision by the AOU not to have Englis= h > names for subspecies. 'Canada Jay' was the name of Perisoreus c. > canadansis, which was the subspecies for most of the way across Canada, b= ut > there's swarms of other nominal subspecies - > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_jay#Distribution - several in Canada, > so the English name wasn't ever 'Canada Jay' in various corners of Canada= . > So the name 'Canada Jay' wasn't stolen, it was sacrificed to the > more-or-less good cause of restricting English names to species (rather > than scrubbing all the nominal subspecies which were just based on clinal > geographic variation rather than taxon-like geographic breaks in variatio= n). > > fred. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Frederick W. Schueler & Aleta Karstad > Fragile Inheritance Natural History Daily Paintings - > http://karstaddailypaintings.blogspot.com/ > Vulnerable Watersheds - http://vulnerablewaters.blogspot.ca/ > Mudpuppy Night in Oxford Mills - http://pinicola.ca/mudpup1.htm > 4 St-Lawrence Street Bishops Mills, RR#2 Oxford Station, Ontario K0G 1T0 > on the Smiths Falls Limestone Plain 44* 52'N 75* 42'W > (613)258-3107 <bckcdb at istar.ca> http://pinicola.ca/ > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > --001a113f979417a20c05419627ab Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Geese need love too ;)<div><br></div><div>Helene</div></di= v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_sig= nature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir= =3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Helene Van Doninc= k DVM<br>Cobequid Wildlife Rehabilitation Centre<br></div><div>2220 Irwin L= ake Rd Brookfield NS Canada B0N1C0<br>902-893-0253<br><a href=3D"mailto:bir= dvet@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">helene.birdvet@gmail.com</a><br><a href= =3D"http://www.cwrc.net" target=3D"_blank">www.cwrc.net</a><br></div><div><= div><div>Find us on <a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cobequid-Wild= life-Rehabilitation-Centre/134671693239334" target=3D"_blank">Facebook</a>= =C2=A0and <a href=3D"https://twitter.com/CobequiWildlife" target=3D"_blank"= >Twitter</a><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></= div></div></div></div></div> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Laviolette= , Lance <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:lance.laviolette@lmco.com" = target=3D"_blank">lance.laviolette@lmc