[NatureNS] Spruce Identification

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The spruces can also be differentiated by smell:

"If you remove a needle and attempt to roll it between thumb and
forefinger, Norway and blue spruce needles will resist due to their diamond
shape, while white, red, and black needles, being rounder in cross section,
will all roll readily. Once you=E2=80=99ve established that the yet-unident=
ified
needle does not belong to a Norway or blue, you might as well pinch and
smell it. If the bruised needle releases a pungent odor evocative of cat
urine or skunk (something to consider if you=E2=80=99re thinking about host=
ing it
in your living room for a few months!), it almost certainly belongs to a
white spruce. You may detect subtle hints of orange rind from the red
spruce and a medicinal, menthol smell from the black spruce."

See:
http://northernwoodlands.org/outside_story/article/spruce-up-your-id-skills

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Burkhard Plache <burkhardplache@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello friendly botanists,
>
> I am trying to get a better identification handle on the spruces.
>
> When the cones are nice and well developed, I am fairly comfortable
> to ID a white spruce (longest cone), and black spruces with their dark
> violet colored cones are also recognizable. And the intermediate red spru=
ce
> cones are also ok(ish).
>
> In the absence of cones, hairs on the young twigs are used to identify
> the species (no hairs for white spruce).
>
> I took some photos (linked below) with labels for black, red, and white
> spruce (based on cones that were on the trees but not in the photos).
>
> One spruce looked different.
> I tentatively labelled it 'Norway Spruce', because it appeared to be
> very fast growing (1 foot per year under canopy, some 10-15 year old),
> had 'red spruce like needle color' (subjective), and no hairs on the
> branches.
> It could also be a white spruce, even though its new growth and needle
> attachment does not look like in the white spruce.
>
> I welcome any comments or advice.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/i0ghwe6uysmq2m2/HP1550699.JPG?dl=3D0
>
> Thanks,
> Burkhard
>



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Dartmouth,Nova Scotia, Canada

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,=
serif">The spruces can also be differentiated by smell:</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"><br></div><div class=3D"=
gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"><span style=3D"color:rgb=
(39,39,39);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px">&quot;If =
you remove a needle and attempt to roll it between thumb and forefinger, No=
rway and blue spruce needles will resist due to their diamond shape, while =
white, red, and black needles, being rounder in cross section, will all rol=
l readily. Once you=E2=80=99ve established that the yet-unidentified needle=
 does not belong to a Norway or blue, you might as well pinch and smell it.=
 If the bruised needle releases a pungent odor evocative of cat urine or sk=
unk (something to consider if you=E2=80=99re thinking about hosting it in y=
our living room for a few months!), it almost certainly belongs to a white =
spruce. You may detect subtle hints of orange rind from the red spruce and =
a medicinal, menthol smell from the black spruce.&quot;</span><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(39,39,39);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13=
px"><br></span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(39,39,39);font-size:13px">See:=C2=A0=
</span><font color=3D"#272727" face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span =
style=3D"font-size:13px"><a href=3D"http://northernwoodlands.org/outside_st=
ory/article/spruce-up-your-id-skills">http://northernwoodlands.org/outside_=
story/article/spruce-up-your-id-skills</a></span></font></div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at =
2:19 PM, Burkhard Plache <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:burkhardpl=
ache@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">burkhardplache@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello friendly botanists,<br>
<br>
I am trying to get a better identification handle on the spruces.<br>
<br>
When the cones are nice and well developed, I am fairly comfortable<br>
to ID a white spruce (longest cone), and black spruces with their dark<br>
violet colored cones are also recognizable. And the intermediate red spruce=
<br>
cones are also ok(ish).<br>
<br>
In the absence of cones, hairs on the young twigs are used to identify<br>
the species (no hairs for white spruce).<br>
<br>
I took some photos (linked below) with labels for black, red, and white<br>
spruce (based on cones that were on the trees but not in the photos).<br>
<br>
One spruce looked different.<br>
I tentatively labelled it &#39;Norway Spruce&#39;, because it appeared to b=
e<br>
very fast growing (1 foot per year under canopy, some 10-15 year old),<br>
had &#39;red spruce like needle color&#39; (subjective), and no hairs on th=
e branches.<br>
It could also be a white spruce, even though its new growth and needle<br>
attachment does not look like in the white spruce.<br>
<br>
I welcome any comments or advice.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.dropbox.com/s/i0ghwe6uysmq2m2/HP1550699.JPG?dl=3D0" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/<wbr>i0ghwe6=
uysmq2m2/HP1550699.JPG?<wbr>dl=3D0</a><br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Burkhard<br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=
=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><span style=3D"font=
-family:georgia,serif">Rick Ballard </span><br style=3D"font-family:georgia=
,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">Dartmouth,Nova Scotia, Ca=
nada </span><br style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:georgia,serif"></span></div>
</div>

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