[NatureNS] insect repellents US review

From: Henk Kwindt <cbatl@bellaliant.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:37:34 -0300
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I never use any repellent, although hardly a day goes by that I do not =
get into tall grass or bushes.
My neighbours have all had ticks including the black legged, but I have =
not seen any yet.
I am just too scared of the chemicals especially using them regularly.
Besides, whatever you use, you will have to check your body (totally) =
every evening anyway.
Same for sunscreen, I don=E2=80=99t use it. I am just not convinced what =
is worse, sun exposure or sunscreen on my skin.
Henk Kwindt, Cow Bay, NS.


> On Aug 14, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> I know this goes against the grain, but have any of you =
tried...nothing at all?
>=20
> I realize that there are a very few circumstances where one must go =
into mosquito-ridden areas. However, when disease transmission is =
effectively nil (as in NS), can you just not tolerate a few bites? I am =
now 20 years without using repellent, not even once, not on my =
clothes...nothing. Seriously, mosquito bites are itchy for a little bit, =
then no issue.
>=20
> I really think bug repellent companies have turned this into a much =
bigger issue than it really is, and most people think they *need* =
repellent.
>=20
> I also do not use mosquito jackets...the hoods have some redeeming =
value, but the jackets allow *more* access to your skin than if you just =
wore a light shirt...the weave of jackets is so loose that the proboscis =
of the mosquitoes has much less trouble getting through when compared =
with the tighter weave of shirts.
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> I also understand that some people are apparently more attractive to =
biting flies than other people. However, I also think that like driving =
(impossibly, we can't all be "better than the average driver"), there =
are a lot of people which think that "mosquitoes just love me more than =
anyone else"
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> I do support the use of a repellent for ticks or biting insects, *if* =
you live in an area where disease-carrying critters are a problem.
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> Randy
>=20
> _________________________________
> RF Lauff
> Way in the boonies of
> Antigonish County, NS.
>=20
> On 14 August 2017 at 13:34, Stephen Shaw <srshaw@dal.ca =
<mailto:srshaw@dal.ca>> wrote:
> The latest (Sept 2017, page 17) print issue of US-based Consumer =
Reports briefly evaluates 24 bug repellents, aimed at mosquitoes but =
saying that their tests showed that they appeared also to repel ticks.  =
The scores range from 95 (tops), down to 4 (poor).  Six of the top 9 top =
recommended brands contain only DEET, 2 contain picaridin, and 1 =
contains Oil of lemon eucalyptus.   These are US-based products, unclear =
if all/any available in Canada.   The report can be reviewed without a =
subscription at
> CR.org/repellents0917 <http://cr.org/repellents0917>
> access to which is a bit clunky but worked for me on checking it out.  =
The CR review doesn=E2=80=99t mention Piactive or icaridin, probably =
because the primary focus was on mosquito repellents.  The review comes =
down on plant-based =E2=80=98botanicals=E2=80=99, which it says are not =
EPA registered and which they say they found ineffective.
> Steve (Hfx)=20
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> On Aug 8, 2017, at 7:03 PM, David Patriquin <davidgpatriquin@yahoo.ca =
<mailto:davidgpatriquin@yahoo.ca>> wrote:
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>> When I am in the "right place at the right time" to get black-legged =
ticks, especially the nymphs,  I use a combination of light coloured (so =
I can see ticks),  pyrethroid-treated clothing and a personal =
insecticide with pyrethrin or pyrethroids (synthetic analogues of =
pyrethrin) to ward them off.
>>=20
>> This summer I began using the Piactive product.  I was walking some =
clearcuts in early July with a colleague who had sprayed exposed skin =
but had untreated clothing. Walking the same route, he picked up 5 =
black-legged ticks, I picked up none. =20
>>=20
>> The Piactive product (which contains icaridin, a pyrethroid) is said =
to be good for 12 hours; it doesn't smell bad like Deet, nor does it =
dissolve some synthetic clothing as Deet does.
>>=20
>> Regardless of whether I have been wearing treated clothing & using =
the personal insecticide I am always on the lookout for ticks on my skin =
when I shower.
>>=20
>> So far so good.
>>=20
>> View=20
>> versicolor.ca/noticks <http://versicolor.ca/noticks>=20
>> for some of my sources.=20
>> =20
>> David G Patriquin
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> From: "klantz@ns.sympatico.ca <mailto:klantz@ns.sympatico.ca>" =
<klantz@ns.sympatico.ca <mailto:klantz@ns.sympatico.ca>>
>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>=20
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 6:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] RE: Black-legged Tick and late fall
>>=20
>> I don't use a repellent for ticks as they are present around my yard =
and I would have to apply it every time I go outside. I have tried =
Piactive for mosquitoes & black flies, it is 20% Icaridin and seems to =
be comparable to deet. The label states that it is also effective for =
Ticks so I suspect it would provide some protection.
>> =20
>> Kevin
>> =20
>> From: David Schlosberg <mailto:dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 3:31 PM
>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
>> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] RE: Black-legged Tick and late fall
>> =20
>> I=E2=80=99m curious.  Do you folks spray with deet?  I=E2=80=99ve =
been using picaridin this summer and last, but I haven=E2=80=99t gotten =
any ticks on me yet.  Luck?
>> =20
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