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If this helps distinguish between the two, it was 3-4 in. in length,
flapping like a bird. Stationary at times, with only it's nose out of
the water. 

On 10 Oct 2017 15:39, Randy Lauff wrote: 

> Billy, 
> 
> I
forwarded your pictures to former students of mine now working at DFO,
Jamie Emberley and Irene Andrushchenko. Here are the responses: 
> 
> "I
think it could be a_ tres cool_ northern striped gurnard (_P.
evolans_)... But Jamie's a pessimist and is disagreeing with me on that,
citing the quality of the pictures. That having been said, he deals with
fish ID about 10,000 times a year to my once (now twice, thanks to this
email!), so I would take his word over mine any day." 
> 
> "Hi Randy!
Really difficult to say. It definitely has potential to be a Sea Robin
and Irene may be correct with _P. evolans_. But it would be very
difficult to get a confirmed ID on this. It also has some
characteristics of flying gurnard (Family Dactylopteridae) but they are
less common. Difficult to see if the pectorals are spread fully. Is this
pic taken of the fish swimming at the surface? Pretty cool to see." 
>

> Randy 
> _________________________________
> RF Lauff
> Way in the
boonies of
> Antigonish County, NS. 
> 
> On 10 October 2017 at 12:43,
John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca [4]> wrote:
> 
>> Please send
away; will not guarantee an ID, but don't mind looking.
>> 
>> I'm now
65; when I was in school, my father was Port Technician for the
Fisheries Research Board in Yarmouth. He brought home a number of weird
specimens. At some time in the mid-60's I do remember a sea robin coming
home. Don't know where it was caught, though!
>> 
>> -----Original
Message-----
>> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [1]
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [2]] On Behalf Of bdigout
>> Sent:
October 10, 2017 11:32 AM
>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca [3]
>> Subject:
[NatureNS] fish id?
>> 
>> Could anyone help with a fish id? Jeannie
Shermerhorn took a picture of this fish that was "flying" through the
water in the St. Peter's Canal.
>> I can send a photo. Possibly a Sea
Robin, although I didn't think they ventured this far north.
>> Billy




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<p>If this helps distinguish between the two,&nbsp; it was 3-4 in. in lengt=
h, flapping like a bird.&nbsp; Stationary at times, with only it's nose out=
 of the water.</p>
<p>On 10 Oct 2017 15:39, Randy Lauff wrote:</p>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Billy,
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<div>I forwarded your pictures to former students of mine now working at DF=
O, Jamie Emberley and Irene Andrushchenko. Here are the responses:</div>
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<div>"<span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-=
size: 11pt;">I think it could be a<em> tres cool</em> northern striped gurn=
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ont-size: 11pt;">P. evolans</em><span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family:=
 Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">)... But Jamie&rsquo;s a pessimist a=
nd is disagreeing with me on that, citing the &nbsp;quality of the pictures=
=2E That having been said, he deals with fish ID about 10,000 times a year =
to my once (now twice, thanks to this email!), so I would take his word ove=
r mine any day."</span></div>
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<div>"<span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-=
size: 11pt;">Hi Randy!&nbsp; Really difficult to say.&nbsp; It definitely h=
as potential to be a Sea Robin and Irene may be correct with </span><em sty=
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=2E evolans</em><span style=3D"color: #1f497d; font-family: Calibri,sans-se=
rif; font-size: 11pt;">. But it would be very difficult to get a confirmed =
ID on this. It also has some characteristics of flying gurnard (Family Dact=
ylopteridae) but they are less common.&nbsp; Difficult to see if the pector=
als are spread fully.&nbsp; Is this pic taken of the fish swimming at the s=
urface?&nbsp; Pretty cool to see."</span></div>
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<div class=3D"gmail-m_-2691829138508954158gmail_signature">Randy</div>
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_________________<br />RF Lauff<br />Way in the boonies of<br />Antigonish =
County, NS.</div>
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 10 October 2017 at 12:43, John and Nhung <spa=
n>&lt;nhungjohn@eastlink.ca&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br />
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px  0px  0px  0.8ex; bo=
rder-left: 1px  solid rgb; padding-left: 1ex;">Please send away; will not g=
uarantee an ID, but&nbsp; don&rsquo;t mind looking.<br /><br /> I'm now 65;=
 when I was in school, my father was Port Technician for the Fisheries Rese=
arch Board in Yarmouth.&nbsp; He brought home a number of weird specimens=
=2E&nbsp; At some time in the mid-60's I do remember a sea robin coming hom=
e.&nbsp; Don't know where it was caught, though!<br />
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<div class=3D"gmail-m_-2691829138508954158h5"><br /> -----Original Message-=
----<br /> From: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-=
owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto=
=2Ens.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>] On Behalf Of bdigout<br /> Sen=
t: October 10, 2017 11:32 AM<br /> To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto=
=2Ens.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br /> Subject: [NatureNS] fish id?<br=
 /><br /> Could anyone help with a fish id? Jeannie Shermerhorn took a pict=
ure of this fish that was "flying" through the water in the St. Peter's Can=
al.<br /> I can send a photo. Possibly a Sea Robin, although I didn't think=
 they ventured this far north.<br /> Billy<br /><br /></div>
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