[NatureNS] fish id?

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Thanks Billy and Jeannie for more information.

I sent the extra information to my contact at DFO, who had to forward it to
someone who spends time in CBI. Here is the response:

Almost definitely *Dactylopterus volitans  -  * Flying Gurnard. These come
up in the warmer water and then get trapped in bays and coves when the
water cools off.  They stay in the warmer water of the bay until it too
gets too cold and then they wash up on beaches.  About 3 years ago there
was a school of several hundred which washed up on Clam Harbour Beach. The
same year there were also a few found on Janvrin Island next to Isle Madame
and Point Michaud Beach.



Unfortunately for this little guy, I would say that his days are numbered.



Bill MacEachern


We have no representatives of this species, or family, in the collection at
StFX. This, or any other weird fish would be greatly accepted. If you
collect one for us, just plop it in the freezer with a note including,
date, location, who caught it, and any other details that may be important
(e.g. "washed up on the beach", "was in the stomach of the tuna I caught").


Randy

_________________________________
RF Lauff
Way in the boonies of
Antigonish County, NS.

On 12 October 2017 at 11:13, bdigout <bdigout@seaside.ns.ca> wrote:

> If this helps distinguish between the two,  it was 3-4 in. in length,
> flapping like a bird.  Stationary at times, with only it's nose out of th=
e
> water.
>
> On 10 Oct 2017 15:39, Randy Lauff wrote:
>
> Billy,
>
> I forwarded your pictures to former students of mine now working at DFO,
> Jamie Emberley and Irene Andrushchenko. Here are the responses:
>
> "I think it could be a* tres cool* northern striped gurnard (*P. evolans*=
)...
> But Jamie=E2=80=99s a pessimist and is disagreeing with me on that, citin=
g the
>  quality of the pictures. That having been said, he deals with fish ID
> about 10,000 times a year to my once (now twice, thanks to this email!), =
so
> I would take his word over mine any day."
>
>
>
> "Hi Randy!  Really difficult to say.  It definitely has potential to be a
> Sea Robin and Irene may be correct with *P. evolans*. But it would be
> very difficult to get a confirmed ID on this. It also has some
> characteristics of flying gurnard (Family Dactylopteridae) but they are
> less common.  Difficult to see if the pectorals are spread fully.  Is thi=
s
> pic taken of the fish swimming at the surface?  Pretty cool to see."
>
>
>
> Randy
> _________________________________
> RF Lauff
> Way in the boonies of
> Antigonish County, NS.
>
> On 10 October 2017 at 12:43, John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> wrote=
:
>
>> Please send away; will not guarantee an ID, but  don=E2=80=99t mind look=
ing.
>>
>> I'm now 65; when I was in school, my father was Port Technician for the
>> Fisheries Research Board in Yarmouth.  He brought home a number of weird
>> specimens.  At some time in the mid-60's I do remember a sea robin comin=
g
>> home.  Don't know where it was caught, though!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.c=
a]
>> On Behalf Of bdigout
>> Sent: October 10, 2017 11:32 AM
>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Subject: [NatureNS] fish id?
>>
>> Could anyone help with a fish id? Jeannie Shermerhorn took a picture of
>> this fish that was "flying" through the water in the St. Peter's Canal.
>> I can send a photo. Possibly a Sea Robin, although I didn't think they
>> ventured this far north.
>> Billy
>>
>>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Billy and Jeannie for more information.<div><br></d=
iv><div>I sent the extra information to my contact at DFO, who had to forwa=
rd it to someone who spends time in CBI. Here is the response:</div><div><b=
r></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Al=
most definitely <i>Dactylopterus
volitans=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 </i>=C2=A0Flying Gurnard.</span><span style=3D"color=
:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0These come up in the warmer water and then get
trapped in bays and coves when the water cools off.=C2=A0 They stay in the
warmer water of the bay until it too gets too cold and then they wash up on
beaches.=C2=A0 About 3 years ago there was a school of several hundred whic=
h
washed up on Clam Harbour Beach. The same year there were also a few found =
on
Janvrin Island next to Isle Madame and Point Michaud Beach.</span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></=
p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Unfortunately f=
or this little
guy, I would say that his days are numbered.<span></span></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></=
p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Bill=C2=A0<span=
></span></span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt=
">MacEachern</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,7=
3,125)"><br></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"#000000">We ha=
ve no representatives of this species, or family, in the collection at StFX=
. This, or any other weird fish would be greatly accepted. If you collect o=
ne for us, just plop it in the freezer with a note including, date, locatio=
n, who caught it, and any other details that may be important (e.g. &quot;w=
ashed up on the beach&quot;, &quot;was in the stomach of the tuna I caught&=
quot;).</font></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"#000000"><br></font=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><font color=3D"#000000">Randy</font></p></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail-m_-434=
278004609362764gmail_signature">______________________________<wbr>___<br>R=
F Lauff<br>Way in the boonies of<br>Antigonish County, NS.</div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 12 October 2017 at 11:13, bdigout <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bdigout@seaside.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">b=
digout@seaside.ns.ca</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb