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Hi John & All,
With respect to rate of recent cutting there is a need for credible=20
ground truth. Some forest advocates say cutting is grossly excessive=20
while NR and the industry say all is fine. For those who have no way to=20
see for themselves this generates a barrier to action.
But when stands of large hardwood are chipped for export or trucked=20
to feed a remote bio furnace while established value-added operations=20
have to close because their essential raw material, hardwood timber, is=20
unavailable then it is clear that something is seriously wrong. And it=20
is also clear that adjustments are needed.
How could such things happen ? The basic forces are as old as=20
humanity; nomads don't conserve soil or nurture anything. They extract,=20
damage, destroy and, when necessary, move on. Under our first past the=20
post system our elected leaders look to a short future (the next=20
election), and do whatever is necessary to win the next election. They=20
in effect have the mentality of nomads. The first step to sound forest=20
policy on crown and private land is sound government which looks and=20
plans far into the future. Numerous flavors of Proportional=20
Representation enable this.
Compare Denmark and Nova Scotia. Their sole natural resource is=20
being located on the coast. NS is also on the coast and has much more=20
natural resources. But look at the difference. Denmark, among other=20
things, is a major trading nation and an important designer and builder=20
of ships. They are one of the three most happy nations on earth=20
(Nat.Geo. 232(5):30-59, 2017).
Canada never has had PR in any jurisdiction, so far as I know. But=20
Prime Minister Mackenzie King acted in that context; he stressed the=20
need for consultation on all major decisions which is the essence of PR.=20
He e.g. managed to build a navy in far less time than than it currently=20
takes Ottawa to build a row boat.
Yt, DW, Kentville
------ Original Message ------
From: "John and Nhung" <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: 11/17/2017 5:56:48 AM
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Time lapse forest cover map of Vancouver Island
>Pretty impressive, as is the economic coda. Value-added seems to be=20
>under attack in the Nova Scotia forest industry, as well, given the=20
>closure of some small operations in recent years. =E2=80=9CWhat can be do=
ne=20
>about it?=E2=80=9D is a question that needs to be addressed.
>
>
>
>One bit of optimism: In my wee corner of the universe (south of=20
>Yarmouth), I=E2=80=99d say forest cover has increased overall since the =
=E2=80=9850=E2=80=99s,=20
>mainly from the regrowth of oldfields and old cuts. However, can=E2=80=99=
t say=20
>that for the whole county, particularly in recent years, as forests get=20
>mowed and exported to parts unknown. All I can be sure of is that=20
>damned few folks down here are benefiting from the =E2=80=9Charvest.=E2=80=
=9D
>
>
>
>I think we also have wonder why this government is so reluctant to err=20
>on the side of sustainable forestry. I speculate that the horrible=20
>state of our provincial finances have the government scared, and this=20
>may be a politically inexpensive (relatively speaking) way of=20
>addressing that. So, =E2=80=A6 as part of addressing the current mining=
of=20
>the forests, could raising ideas with politicians about other ways of=20
>addressing our fiscal situation help mitigate the assault?
>
>
>
>Everything is connected=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
>From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca=20
>[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Lois Codling
>Sent: November 16, 2017 10:13 PM
>To: Nature NS
>Subject: [NatureNS] Time lapse forest cover map of Vancouver Island
>
>
>
>Very interesting map here:
>https://thegreenpages.ca/2017/05/09/time-lapse-forest-cover-map-shows-the-=
progressive-demise-of-vancouver-islands-old-growth-forests-over-the-past-ce=
ntury/
>
>Wish someone would do this for N.S.
>
>Lois Codling
>
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th respect to rate of recent cutting there is a need for credible ground tr=
uth. Some forest advocates say cutting is grossly excessive while NR and th=
e industry say all is fine. For those who have no way to see for themselves =
this generates a barrier to action.</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 But when stand=
s of large hardwood are chipped for export or trucked to feed a remote bio=
furnace while established value-added operations have to close because thei=
r essential raw material, hardwood timber, is unavailable then it is clear=
that something is seriously wrong. And it is also clear that adjustments ar=
e needed.</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 How could such things happen ? The basic=
forces are as old as humanity; nomads don't conserve soil or nurture anythi=
ng. They extract, damage, destroy and, when necessary, move on. Under our f=
irst past the post system our elected leaders look to a short future (the n=
ext election), and do whatever is necessary to win the next election. They=
in effect have the mentality of nomads. The first step to sound forest poli=
cy on crown and private land is sound government which looks and plans far=
into the future. Numerous flavors of Proportional Representation enable thi=
s.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=
=3D"white-space:pre"> </span>Compare Denmark and Nova Scotia. Their sole na=
tural resource is being located on the coast. NS is also on the coast and h=
as much more natural resources. But look at the difference. Denmark, among=
other things, is a major trading nation and an important designer and build=
er of ships. They are one of the three most happy nations on earth (Nat.Geo=
. 232(5):30-59, 2017).</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Canada never has had PR in a=
ny jurisdiction, so far as I know. But Prime Minister Mackenzie King acted=
in that context; he stressed the need for consultation on all major decisio=
ns which is the essence of PR. He e.g. managed to build a navy in far less=
time than than it currently takes Ottawa to build a row boat.</div><div>Yt, =
DW, Kentville</div><div><br /></div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>------ Original Message ------</div>
<div>From: "John and Nhung" <<a href=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca">nh=
ungjohn@eastlink.ca</a>></div>
<div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=
</a></div>
<div>Sent: 11/17/2017 5:56:48 AM</div>
<div>Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Time lapse forest cover map of Vancouver Islan=
d</div><div><br /></div>
<div id=3D"xcca354d047d042e"><blockquote cite=3D"000301d35f8a$62851210$278f=
3630$@eastlink.ca" type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite2">
<div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D">Pretty impressive, as is the economic coda.=C2=A0 Value-added seems to b=
e under attack in the Nova Scotia forest industry, as well, given the closu=
re of some small operations in recent years.=C2=A0 =E2=80=9CWhat can be don=
e about it?=E2=80=9D =C2=A0is a question that needs to be addressed.<o:p xm=
lns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";colo=
r:#1F497D"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&qu=
ot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D">One bit of optimism:=C2=A0 In my wee cor=
ner of the universe (south of Yarmouth), I=E2=80=99d say forest cover has i=
ncreased overall =C2=A0since the =E2=80=9850=E2=80=99s, mainly from the reg=
rowth of oldfields and old cuts.=C2=A0 However, can=E2=80=99t say that for=
the whole county, particularly in recent years, as forests get mowed and ex=
ported to parts unknown.=C2=A0 All I can be sure of is that damned few folk=
s down here are benefiting from the =E2=80=9Charvest.=E2=80=9D<o:p xmlns:o=
=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F=
497D"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sa=
ns-serif";color:#1F497D">I think we also have wonder why this governme=
nt is so reluctant to err on the side of sustainable forestry. =C2=A0I spec=
ulate that the horrible state of our provincial finances have the governmen=
t scared, and this may be a politically inexpensive (relatively speaking) w=
ay of addressing that.=C2=A0 =C2=A0So, =E2=80=A6 as part of addressing the=
current mining of the forests, could raising ideas with politicians about o=
ther ways of addressing our fiscal situation =C2=A0help mitigate the assaul=
t?<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&q=
uot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&=
quot;,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Everything is connected=E2=80=
=A6<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif&=
quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p><div>=
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0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowte=
xt">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> <a href=3D=
"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> [m=
ailto:<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebu=
cto.ns.ca</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lois Codling<br /><b>Sent:</b> November=
16, 2017 10:13 PM<br /><b>To:</b> Nature NS<br /><b>Subject:</b> [NatureNS] =
Time lapse forest cover map of Vancouver Island<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"><=
/o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown=
">=C2=A0</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Very interesting map here:<br /><b=
><a href=3D"https://thegreenpages.ca/2017/05/09/time-lapse-forest-cover-map=
-shows-the-progressive-demise-of-vancouver-islands-old-growth-forests-over-=
the-past-century/">https://thegreenpages.ca/2017/05/09/time-lapse-forest-co=
ver-map-shows-the-progressive-demise-of-vancouver-islands-old-growth-forest=
s-over-the-past-century/</a><br /><br />Wish someone would do this for N.S.=
<br /><br />Lois Codling</b><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p></div></blo=
ckquote></div>
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