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The analogy between too many elected governments and a =
=E2=80=9Cnomad=E2=80=9D mentality makes a lot of sense. Add to that a =
=E2=80=9Cme-first-now=E2=80=9D attitude among too many voters, and I =
feel sorry for the grandkids.
=20
We owe a lot of our good fortune (including a good chunk of our =
constitutional rights) to the willingness of folks who went before us to =
sacrifice for others and to assumptions of responsible behaviour (which =
implies self-control). Most of my working life was spent in poor =
countries; we are entitled to a lot less than we think!=20
=20
(Quit preaching, John! But everything is connected!)
=20
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of David
Sent: November 17, 2017 11:11 AM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Cc: David Webster
Subject: Solutions was:;e[2]: [NatureNS] Time lapse forest cover map of =
Vancouver Island
=20
Hi John & All,
With respect to rate of recent cutting there is a need for credible =
ground truth. Some forest advocates say cutting is grossly excessive =
while NR and the industry say all is fine. For those who have no way to =
see for themselves this generates a barrier to action.
But when stands of large hardwood are chipped for export or trucked =
to feed a remote bio furnace while established value-added operations =
have to close because their essential raw material, hardwood timber, is =
unavailable then it is clear that something is seriously wrong. And it =
is also clear that adjustments are needed.
How could such things happen ? The basic forces are as old as =
humanity; nomads don't conserve soil or nurture anything. They extract, =
damage, destroy and, when necessary, move on. Under our first past the =
post system our elected leaders look to a short future (the next =
election), and do whatever is necessary to win the next election. They =
in effect have the mentality of nomads. The first step to sound forest =
policy on crown and private land is sound government which looks and =
plans far into the future. Numerous flavors of Proportional =
Representation enable this.
Compare Denmark and Nova Scotia. Their sole natural resource =
is being located on the coast. NS is also on the coast and has much more =
natural resources. But look at the difference. Denmark, among other =
things, is a major trading nation and an important designer and builder =
of ships. They are one of the three most happy nations on earth =
(Nat.Geo. 232(5):30-59, 2017).
Canada never has had PR in any jurisdiction, so far as I know. But =
Prime Minister Mackenzie King acted in that context; he stressed the =
need for consultation on all major decisions which is the essence of PR. =
He e.g. managed to build a navy in far less time than than it currently =
takes Ottawa to build a row boat.
Yt, DW, Kentville
=20
=20
------ Original Message ------
From: "John and Nhung" < <mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca> =
nhungjohn@eastlink.ca>
To: <mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: 11/17/2017 5:56:48 AM
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Time lapse forest cover map of Vancouver Island
=20
Pretty impressive, as is the economic coda. Value-added seems to be =
under attack in the Nova Scotia forest industry, as well, given the =
closure of some small operations in recent years. =E2=80=9CWhat can be =
done about it?=E2=80=9D is a question that needs to be addressed.
=20
One bit of optimism: In my wee corner of the universe (south of =
Yarmouth), I=E2=80=99d say forest cover has increased overall since the =
=E2=80=9850=E2=80=99s, mainly from the regrowth of oldfields and old =
cuts. However, can=E2=80=99t say that for the whole county, =
particularly in recent years, as forests get mowed and exported to parts =
unknown. All I can be sure of is that damned few folks down here are =
benefiting from the =E2=80=9Charvest.=E2=80=9D
=20
I think we also have wonder why this government is so reluctant to err =
on the side of sustainable forestry. I speculate that the horrible =
state of our provincial finances have the government scared, and this =
may be a politically inexpensive (relatively speaking) way of addressing =
that. So, =E2=80=A6 as part of addressing the current mining of the =
forests, could raising ideas with politicians about other ways of =
addressing our fiscal situation help mitigate the assault?
=20
Everything is connected=E2=80=A6
=20
From: <mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> =
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto: =
<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On =
Behalf Of Lois Codling
Sent: November 16, 2017 10:13 PM
To: Nature NS
Subject: [NatureNS] Time lapse forest cover map of Vancouver Island
=20
Very interesting map here:
=
<https://thegreenpages.ca/2017/05/09/time-lapse-forest-cover-map-shows-th=
e-progressive-demise-of-vancouver-islands-old-growth-forests-over-the-pas=
t-century/> =
https://thegreenpages.ca/2017/05/09/time-lapse-forest-cover-map-shows-the=
-progressive-demise-of-vancouver-islands-old-growth-forests-over-the-past=
-century/
Wish someone would do this for N.S.
Lois Codling
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The analogy between too many elected governments and a =
=E2=80=9Cnomad=E2=80=9D mentality makes a lot of sense.=C2=A0 Add to =
that a =E2=80=9Cme-first-now=E2=80=9D attitude among too many voters, =
and I feel sorry for the grandkids.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>We owe a lot of our good fortune (including a good chunk of our =
constitutional rights) to the willingness of folks who went before us to =
sacrifice for others and to assumptions of responsible behaviour (which =
implies self-control).=C2=A0 Most of my working life was spent in poor =
countries; we are entitled to a lot less than we think! =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>(Quit preaching, John!=C2=A0 But everything <b><u>is</u></b> =
connected!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] =
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David<br><b>Sent:</b> November 17, 2017 11:11 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br><b>Cc:</b> David =
Webster<br><b>Subject:</b> Solutions was:;e[2]: [NatureNS] Time lapse =
forest cover map of Vancouver Island<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Hi John & =
All,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> With respect =
to rate of recent cutting there is a need for credible ground truth. =
Some forest advocates say cutting is grossly excessive while NR and the =
industry say all is fine. For those who have no way to see for =
themselves this generates a barrier to =
action.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> But when =
stands of large hardwood are chipped for export or trucked to feed a =
remote bio furnace while established value-added operations have to =
close because their essential raw material, hardwood timber, is =
unavailable then it is clear that something is seriously wrong. And it =
is also clear that adjustments are =
needed.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> How could such =
things happen ? The basic forces are as old as humanity; nomads don't =
conserve soil or nurture anything. They extract, damage, destroy and, =
when necessary, move on. Under our first past the post system our =
elected leaders look to a short future (the next election), and do =
whatever is necessary to win the next election. They in effect have the =
mentality of nomads. The first step to sound forest policy on crown and =
private land is sound government which looks and plans far into the =
future. Numerous flavors of Proportional Representation enable =
this.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <span=
class=3Dapple-tab-span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span>Compare =
Denmark and Nova Scotia. Their sole natural resource is being located on =
the coast. NS is also on the coast and has much more natural resources. =
But look at the difference. Denmark, among other things, is a major =
trading nation and an important designer and builder of ships. They are =
one of the three most happy nations on earth (Nat.Geo. 232(5):30-59, =
2017).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Canada never =
has had PR in any jurisdiction, so far as I know. But Prime Minister =
Mackenzie King acted in that context; he stressed the need for =
consultation on all major decisions which is the essence of PR. He e.g. =
managed to build a navy in far less time than than it currently takes =
Ottawa to build a row boat.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Yt, =
DW, Kentville<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>------ Original Message =
------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From: "John and =
Nhung" <<a href=3D"mailto:nhungjohn@eastlink.ca"><u><span =
style=3D'color:blue'>nhungjohn@eastlink.ca</span></u></a>><o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca"><u><span =
style=3D'color:blue'>naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent: 11/17/2017 5:56:48 =
AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Time =
lapse forest cover map of Vancouver =
Island<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><=
/div><div id=3Dxcca354d047d042e><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
8.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:2.25pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom=
:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Pretty impressive, as is the economic coda. Value-added seems =
to be under attack in the Nova Scotia forest industry, as well, given =
the closure of some small operations in recent years. =
=E2=80=9CWhat can be done about it?=E2=80=9D is a question that =
needs to be addressed.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><ns0:p></ns0:p></span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>One bit of optimism: In my wee corner of the universe (south of =
Yarmouth), I=E2=80=99d say forest cover has increased overall =
since the =E2=80=9850=E2=80=99s, mainly from the regrowth of =
oldfields and old cuts. However, can=E2=80=99t say that for the =
whole county, particularly in recent years, as forests get mowed and =
exported to parts unknown. All I can be sure of is that damned few =
folks down here are benefiting from the =
=E2=80=9Charvest.=E2=80=9D</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I think we also have wonder why this government is so reluctant to =
err on the side of sustainable forestry. I speculate that the =
horrible state of our provincial finances have the government scared, =
and this may be a politically inexpensive (relatively speaking) way of =
addressing that. So, =E2=80=A6 as part of addressing the =
current mining of the forests, could raising ideas with politicians =
about other ways of addressing our fiscal situation help mitigate =
the assault?</span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Everything is connected=E2=80=A6</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> </span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca"><u><span =
style=3D'color:blue'>naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</span></u></a> =
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca"><u><span =
style=3D'color:blue'>naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</span></u></a>] <b>On =
Behalf Of </b>Lois Codling<br><b>Sent:</b> November 16, 2017 10:13 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Nature NS<br><b>Subject:</b> [NatureNS] Time lapse =
forest cover map of Vancouver Island</span><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Very interesting map =
here:<br><b><a =
href=3D"https://thegreenpages.ca/2017/05/09/time-lapse-forest-cover-map-s=
hows-the-progressive-demise-of-vancouver-islands-old-growth-forests-over-=
the-past-century/"><u><span =
style=3D'color:blue'>https://thegreenpages.ca/2017/05/09/time-lapse-fores=
t-cover-map-shows-the-progressive-demise-of-vancouver-islands-old-growth-=
forests-over-the-past-century/</span></u></a><br><br>Wish someone would =
do this for N.S.<br><br>Lois =
Codling</b><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>
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