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Dear All,
Monday evening at 6:09 one of the Multiflora Rose bushes was mobbed=20
by 40-50 Robins and by 6:15 most had drifted elsewhere. Having not seen=20
any in the yard previously this winter I think it is safe to assume new=20
arrivals.
Yt, DSW, Kentville
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From: "Keith Lowe" <mythos25@live.com>
To: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: 3/19/2018 4:46:07 PM
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
>I better apologize to Eric too. To me my email wasn=E2=80=99t strong, that =
was=20
>not my intention while writing it but two people have written me now=20
>and it appeared to them that my email was certainly stronger than I=20
>intended. I felt disappointment in Eric=E2=80=99s post and felt it was=20
>belittling the effort but I think I also read more into that than Eric=20
>intended.
>
>
>
>I mostly wanted to let the group know there were also those of us who=20
>appreciated their effort. But =E2=80=9Cdisparage=E2=80=9D Eric--never woul=
d I want to=20
>do that.
>
>
>
>Keith
>
>
>
>Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for=20
>Windows 10
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>
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>From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on=20
>behalf of Alix d'Entremont <alixdentremont@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 2:19:34 PM
>To:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca; Eric L. Mills
>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
>
>Thanks for this note Keith.
>
>
>
>Given that 'Spring First Arrivals' is a new initiative and that there=20
>are content changes for NS Birds on the horizon, I think discussion is=20
>necessary. Availability of data is much different now than during=20
>pre-eBird days. We have to take this into account to know where to=20
>focus our efforts.
>
>
>
>I do want to apologize to Eric regarding my earlier e-mail. I've known=20
>Eric as long as I've been a birder and I have nothing but respect for=20
>him (I know he knows that too). Lets work together and ensure that we=20
>focus our efforts on the most useful tasks.
>
>
>
>Alix Arthur d'Entremont
>BSc Geomatics Engineering
>
>
>
>292 Abbott's Harbour Road
>Middle West Pubnico
>Yarmouth Co., Nova Scotia
>Canada B0W 2M0
>
>
>
>Phone: +1 902 762 2082
>Mobile: +1 902 307 0373
>e-mail: alixdentremont@hotmail.com
>Bird Photography http://www.flickr.com/photos/alixd/=20
><http://www.flickr.com/photos/alixd/>
>Website http://alixdentremont.blogspot.ca/=20
><http://alixdentremont.blogspot.ca/>
>
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>
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>From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on=20
>behalf of Keith Lowe <mythos25@live.com>
>Sent: March 19, 2018 1:40 PM
>To:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
>
>I was quite shocked to read this Eric. Your tone seems over the top in=20
>criticizing an initiative from a group of people who volunteered so=20
>much time and effort to bring us this information. I did provide some=20
>data processing to them but I don=E2=80=99t consider myself part of the=
=E2=80=9Ccabal=E2=80=9D=20
>so I can say that I think they are doing are great job in proving=20
>useful information and I=E2=80=99ll be following it for sure. This info is=
=20
>something I=E2=80=99ve been wanting for years and I=E2=80=99m glad someone =
is finally=20
>getting it done.
>
>
>
>If a new group of eiders or scoters moves into an area in spring, how=20
>could anyone know if they came from elsewhere in the province or not?=20
>You may be one of a few that would have a good idea on that but I don=E2=
=80=99t=20
>think you could be certain.
>
>
>
>Likewise with robins. There have been groups of hundreds of robins=20
>reported around the province this winter. If an avid birder recognizes=20
>a new a group or robins that moved into their patch, how could they=20
>possibly know if they overwintered in NS or not? And frankly what=20
>difference does it makes when it comes to robins. We have way too many=20
>that over winter to sort out which ones didn=E2=80=99t
>
>
>
>Keith
>
>
>
>Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for=20
>Windows 10
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>
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>From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on=20
>behalf of Eric Mills <E.Mills@Dal.Ca>
>Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 9:07:58 AM
>To:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
>
>Hello Nancy,
>
>
>
>So lots of species - Common Eiders, loons, the Scoters, most common=20
>gulls, Robins, on and on - are excluded from this Citizen Science=20
>project.
>
>
>
>I think that the anonymous cabal (I know who they are; I am just being=20
>facetious) that has established these criteria and the list should=20
>think again. There are many good field birders in Nova Scotia who know=20
>their local patches very well and can make good informed judgements=20
>about what has arrived and what has been around all winter.
>
>
>
>With such a constipated list we will certainly miss new and significant=20
>information about many species. I don't think that is necessary and it=20
>is certainly not desirable.
>
>
>
>Eric
>
>
>
>Eric L. Mills
>
>Lower Rose Bay
>
>Lunenburg Co., NS
>
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>From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on=20
>behalf of nancy dowd <nancypdowd@gmail.com>
>Sent: March 19, 2018 7:04:16 AM
>To:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
>
>These no doubt are Spring First Arrivals, arriving via the route you=20
>mentioned. So I will use this opportunity to clarify some of the=20
>reasoning behind the species list on the NSBS Spring First Arrivals=20
>table.=20
>http://www.nsbirdsociety.ca/library/resources/spring-first-arrivals
>
>The re