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We do have tons of first arrival dates in 60+ years of NS Birds. I used th=
em to suss out swallow arrivals a few years back. Certainly the keen birde=
rs of yore knew the difference between new arrivals and overwintered birds =
of various species, and the arguments discriminating them were often invoke=
d in NS birds for species like Am. Robin. Arrival dates have to be analysed=
more carefully than I did or swallows, because larger samples through time=
will give earlier first arrivals as the 'normal' distribution' is expanded=
.
Ian M.
________________________________
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha=
lf of Keith Lowe <mythos25@live.com>
Sent: March 21, 2018 3:42 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
That is a good info that could be used on from here on if observers report =
this in eBird or send it to Nancy. We don=92t have this info historically a=
nd not in eBird as you point out. I was curious and did a check and of the =
1,337 reports of 20 or more robins in NS for the last 5 years only 7 record=
s had sex information entered and no records with all males
Any need tips for other partial migrant species are welcomed
Keith
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha=
lf of Eric Mills <E.Mills@Dal.Ca>
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 11:36:25 AM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
Here's a tip for determining if a flock of robins is made up of migrants or=
not. Look at the flock composition: if it is made up of both sexes and imm=
atures, it is certainly an overwintering flock, or at most has moved only a=
short distance (being in a multiflora thicket is another clue to local ori=
gin). if, on the other hand, you find a flock on your lawn, looking around =
and trying to feed voraciously, and all big bright males, they are spring m=
igrants. The same principle applies, with variations, for grackles: migrant=
flocks, entirely males, tend to show up in treetops in significant numbers=
just after arrival, displaying and calling frequently.
This is where field experience and local knowledge come in, as I suggested =
in a more general way in an earlier posting. It's not the kind of skill tha=
t will be acquired by just filling in an eBird checklist.
Sermon ended.
Eric
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha=
lf of Keith Lowe <mythos25@live.com>
Sent: March 19, 2018 7:13:06 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
But no way to know if they were from out of province or elsewhere in the pr=
ovince. Probably out of province but there were groups of robins (up to 75)=
reported in King=92s County in February so we can=92t be certain
Keith
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha=
lf of David <dwebster@glinx.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:56:16 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
Dear All,
Monday evening at 6:09 one of the Multiflora Rose bushes was mobbed by =
40-50 Robins and by 6:15 most had drifted elsewhere. Having not seen any in=
the yard previously this winter I think it is safe to assume new arrivals=
.
Yt, DSW, Kentville
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From: "Keith Lowe" <mythos25@live.com<mailto:mythos25@live.com>>
To: "naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@cheb=
ucto.ns.ca>>
Sent: 3/19/2018 4:46:07 PM
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
I better apologize to Eric too. To me my email wasn=92t strong, that was no=
t my intention while writing it but two people have written me now and it a=
ppeared to them that my email was certainly stronger than I intended. I fel=
t disappointment in Eric=92s post and felt it was belittling the effort but=
I think I also read more into that than Eric intended.
I mostly wanted to let the group know there were also those of us who appre=
ciated their effort. But =93disparage=94 Eric--never would I want to do tha=
t.
Keith
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naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>> on beh=
alf of Alix d'Entremont <alixdentremont@hotmail.com<mailto:alixdentremont@h=
otmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 2:19:34 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>; Eric L. Mills
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
Thanks for this note Keith.
Given that 'Spring First Arrivals' is a new initiative and that there are c=
ontent changes for NS Birds on the horizon, I think discussion is necessary=
. Availability of data is much different now than during pre-eBird days. We=
have to take this into account to know where to focus our efforts.
I do want to apologize to Eric regarding my earlier e-mail. I've known Eric=
as long as I've been a birder and I have nothing but respect for him (I kn=
ow he knows that too). Lets work together and ensure that we focus our effo=
rts on the most useful tasks.
Alix Arthur d'Entremont
BSc Geomatics Engineering
292 Abbott's Harbour Road
Middle West Pubnico
Yarmouth Co., Nova Scotia
Canada B0W 2M0
Phone: +1 902 762 2082
Mobile: +1 902 307 0373
e-mail: alixdentremont@hotmail.com<mailto:alixdentremont@hotmail.com>
Bird Photography http://www.flickr.com/photos/alixd/
Website http://alixdentremont.blogspot.ca/
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> <=
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>> on beh=
alf of Keith Lowe <mythos25@live.com<mailto:mythos25@live.com>>
Sent: March 19, 2018 1:40 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
I was quite shocked to read this Eric. Your tone seems over the top in crit=
icizing an initiative from a group of people who volunteered so much time a=
nd effort to bring us this information. I did provide some data processing =
to them but I don=92t consider myself part of the =93cabal=94 so I can say =
that I think they are doing are great job in proving useful information and=
I=92ll be following it for sure. This info is something I=92ve been wantin=
g for years and I=92m glad someone is finally getting it done.
If a new group of eiders or scoters moves into an area in spring, how could=
anyone know if they came from elsewhere in the province or not? You may be=
one of a few that would have a good idea on that but I don=92t think you c=
ould be certain.
Likewise with robins. There have been groups of hundreds of robins reported=
around the province this winter. If an avid birder recognizes a new a grou=
p or robins that moved into their patch, how could they possibly know if th=
ey overwintered in NS or not? And frankly what difference does it makes whe=
n it comes to robins. We have way too many that over winter to sort out whi=
ch ones didn=92t
Keith
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> <=
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>> on beh=
alf of Eric Mills <E.Mills@Dal.Ca<mailto:E.Mills@Dal.Ca>>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 9:07:58 AM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
Hello Nancy,
So lots of species - Common Eiders, loons, the Scoters, most common gulls, =
Robins, on and on - are excluded from this Citizen Science project.
I think that the anonymous cabal (I know who they are; I am just being face=
tious) that has established these criteria and the list should think again=
. There are many good field birders in Nova Scotia who know their local pat=
ches very well and can make good informed judgements about what has arrived=
and what has been around all winter.
With such a constipated list we will certainly miss new and significant inf=
ormation about many species. I don't think that is necessary and it is cert=
ainly not desirable.
Eric
Eric L. Mills
Lower Rose Bay
Lunenburg Co., NS
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> <=
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>> on beh=
alf of nancy dowd <nancypdowd@gmail.com<mailto:nancypdowd@gmail.com>>
Sent: March 19, 2018 7:04:16 AM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals
These no doubt are Spring First Arrivals, arriving via the route you mentio=
ned. So I will use this opportunity to clarify some of the reasoning behind=
the species list on the NSBS Spring First Arrivals table. http://www.nsbir=
dsociety.ca/library/resources/spring-first-arrivals
The reason these species are not part of this NSBS dataset: We have exclude=
d species who have significant overwintering populations in some part of NS=
(see Conclusion section below table), to reduce any entries that require a=
ssumptions on our part. For example, did those RB Gulls get blown in from a=
nearby wintering population? Or were the Lesser Black-backs (always a tong=
ue twister) ones already present in SW NS (probably not)? Even Baltimore Or=
ioles got nixed due to ambiguity.
NatureNS will be getting regular updates on Spring First Arrivals as the mi=
gration season progresses. So please post any sightings.
Nancy
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 18, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Eric Mills <E.Mills@Dal.Ca<mailto:E.Mills@Dal.=
Ca>> wrote:
Two that I believe qualify, with my justification:
Ring-billed Gull - March 18. 10 bright full adults roosting with Herring Gu=
lls off Privateer Park, Liverpool, Queens Co., were not present earlier. Th=
roughout the winter 1-2 Ring-bills, usually first-winter (occasionally adul=
ts) have been present.
Lesser Black-backed Gull - March 11. An adult graellsii arrived among roost=
ing Herring and Greater Black-backed Gulls off Privateer Park, Liverpool, Q=
ueens Co., slept for a while, and then headed off seaward. The timing is co=
nsistent with northward movement from wintering areas in the southeastern U=
SA (likely toward nesting areas in W Greenland or Iceland, although no doub=
t by easy stages so early in the season).
Eric Mills
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">We do have tons of first arr=
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<i>NS Birds</i>. I used them to suss out swallow arrivals a few years=
back. Certainly the keen birders of yore knew the difference between new a=
rrivals and overwintered birds of various species, and the arguments discri=
minating them were often invoked in
<i>NS birds</i> for species like Am. Robin. Arrival dates have to be a=
nalysed more carefully than I did or swallows, because larger samples throu=
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mythos25@live.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> March 21, 2018 3:42 PM<br>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">That is a good info that could be used on from her=
e on if observers report this in eBird or send it to Nancy. We don=92t have=
this info historically and not in eBird as you point out. I was curious an=
d did a check and of the 1,337 reports
of 20 or more robins in NS for the last 5 years only 7 records had sex inf=
ormation entered and no records with all males</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Any need tips for other partial migrant species ar=
e welcomed</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Keith</p>
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ucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on behalf of Eric Mills &l=
t;E.Mills@Dal.Ca><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 21, 2018 11:36:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals</font>
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Here's a tip for determining if =
a flock of robins is made up of migrants or not. Look at the flock composit=
ion: if it is made up of both sexes and immatures, it is certainly an overw=
intering flock, or at most has moved
only a short distance (being in a multiflora thicket is another clue to lo=
cal origin). if, on the other hand, you find a flock on your lawn, looking =
around and trying to feed voraciously, and all big bright males, they are s=
pring migrants. The same principle
applies, with variations, for grackles: migrant flocks, entirely males, te=
nd to show up in treetops in significant numbers just after arrival, displa=
ying and calling frequently.
<br>
</p>
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</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">This is where field experience a=
nd local knowledge come in, as I suggested in a more general way in an earl=
ier posting. It's not the kind of skill that will be acquired by just filli=
ng in an eBird checklist.
<br>
</p>
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Sermon ended.</p>
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Eric<br>
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ucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on behalf of Keith Lowe &l=
t;mythos25@live.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> March 19, 2018 7:13:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals</font>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 19, 2018 6:56:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re[2]: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals</font>
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<div>Dear All,</div>
<div> Monday evening at 6:09 one of the Multiflora Rose bushes=
was mobbed by 40-50 Robins and by 6:15 most had drifted elsewhere. Having =
not seen any in the yard previously this winter I think it is safe to  =
;assume new arrivals. </div>
<div>Yt, DSW, Kentville</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>------ Original Message ------</div>
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@chebucto.ns.ca" id=3D"LPlnk423380" previewremoved=3D"true">naturens@chebuc=
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<div>Sent: 3/19/2018 4:46:07 PM</div>
<div>Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals</div>
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<p class=3D"x_x_MsoNormal">I better apologize to Eric too. To me my email w=
asn=92t strong, that was not my intention while writing it but two people h=
ave written me now and it appeared to them that my email was certainly stro=
nger than I intended. I felt disappointment
in Eric=92s post and felt it was belittling the effort but I think I also =
read more into that than Eric intended.</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"x_x_MsoNormal">I mostly wanted to let the group know there were=
also those of us who appreciated their effort. But =93disparage=94 Eric--n=
ever would I want to do that.</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"x_x_MsoNormal">Keith</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"x_x_MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fw=
link/?LinkId=3D550986" id=3D"LPlnk511158" previewremoved=3D"true">
Mail</a> for Windows 10</p>
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" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" id=3D"LPlnk745263" preview=
removed=3D"true">
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@cheb=
ucto.ns.ca" id=3D"LPlnk628342" previewremoved=3D"true">naturens-owner@chebu=
cto.ns.ca</a>> on behalf of Alix d'Entremont <<a href=3D"mailto:alixd=
entremont@hotmail.com" id=3D"LPlnk691678" previewremoved=3D"true">alixdentr=
emont@hotmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 19, 2018 2:19:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" id=3D"LPlnk487698" pr=
eviewremoved=3D"true">
naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>; Eric L. Mills<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals</font>
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Thanks for this note Keith.</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Given that 'Spring First Arrival=
s' is a new initiative and that there are content changes for
<i>NS Birds</i> on the horizon, I think discussion is necessary. Availabili=
ty of data is much different now than during pre-eBird days. We have to tak=
e this into account to know where to focus our efforts.
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">I do want to apologize to Eric r=
egarding my earlier e-mail. I've known Eric as long as I've been a birder a=
nd I have nothing but respect for him (I know he knows that too). Lets work=
together and ensure that we focus
our efforts on the most useful tasks. <br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><br>
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt"><strong>Alix Arthur d'Entremont</strong></=
span><br>
<span style=3D"font-size:9pt">BSc Geomatics Engineering</span></p>
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alibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" id=3D"LPlnk710972" preview=
removed=3D"true">
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@cheb=
ucto.ns.ca" id=3D"LPlnk836913" previewremoved=3D"true">naturens-owner@chebu=
cto.ns.ca</a>> on behalf of Keith Lowe <<a href=3D"mailto:mythos25@li=
ve.com" id=3D"LPlnk902591" previewremoved=3D"true">mythos25@live.com</a>>=
;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> March 19, 2018 1:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" id=3D"LPlnk937718" pr=
eviewremoved=3D"true">
naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals</font>
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<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal">I was quite shocked to read this Eric. Your to=
ne seems over the top in criticizing an initiative from a group of people w=
ho volunteered so much time and effort to bring us this information. I did =
provide some data processing to them
but I don=92t consider myself part of the =93cabal=94 so I can say that I =
think they are doing are great job in proving useful information and I=92ll=
be following it for sure. This info is something I=92ve been wanting for y=
ears and I=92m glad someone is finally getting
it done.</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal">If a new group of eiders or scoters moves into=
an area in spring, how could anyone know if they came from elsewhere in th=
e province or not? You may be one of a few that would have a good idea on t=
hat but I don=92t think you could be
certain.</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal">Likewise with robins. There have been groups o=
f hundreds of robins reported around the province this winter. If an avid b=
irder recognizes a new a group or robins that moved into their patch, how c=
ould they possibly know if they overwintered
in NS or not? And frankly what difference does it makes when it comes to r=
obins. We have way too many that over winter to sort out which ones didn=92=
t</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal">Keith</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal">Sent from <a id=3D"LPlnk654453" href=3D"https:=
//go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" previewremoved=3D"true">
Mail</a> for Windows 10</p>
<p class=3D"x_x_x_MsoNormal"> </p>
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<div id=3D"x_x_x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D=
"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" id=3D"LPlnk670021" preview=
removed=3D"true">
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@cheb=
ucto.ns.ca" id=3D"LPlnk533033" previewremoved=3D"true">naturens-owner@chebu=
cto.ns.ca</a>> on behalf of Eric Mills <<a href=3D"mailto:E.Mills@Dal=
.Ca" id=3D"LPlnk140423" previewremoved=3D"true">E.Mills@Dal.Ca</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 19, 2018 9:07:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" id=3D"LPlnk378865" pr=
eviewremoved=3D"true">
naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals</font>
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; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, EmojiFo=
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Hello Nancy,</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">So lots of species - Common Eide=
rs, loons, the Scoters, most common gulls, Robins, on and on - are excluded=
from this Citizen Science project.</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">I think that the anonymous cabal=
(I know who they are; I am just being facetious) that has established thes=
e criteria and the list should think again. There are many good field=
birders in Nova Scotia who know their
local patches very well and can make good informed judgements about what h=
as arrived and what has been around all winter.
<br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">With such a constipated list we =
will certainly miss new and significant information about many species. I d=
on't think that is necessary and it is certainly not desirable.
<br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Eric</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Eric L. Mills</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Lower Rose Bay</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Lunenburg Co., NS<br>
</p>
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<div id=3D"x_x_x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D=
"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" id=3D"LPlnk874483" preview=
removed=3D"true">
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@cheb=
ucto.ns.ca" id=3D"LPlnk863691" previewremoved=3D"true">naturens-owner@chebu=
cto.ns.ca</a>> on behalf of nancy dowd <<a href=3D"mailto:nancypdowd@=
gmail.com" id=3D"LPlnk10809" previewremoved=3D"true">nancypdowd@gmail.com</=
a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> March 19, 2018 7:04:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" id=3D"LPlnk157205" pr=
eviewremoved=3D"true">
naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] Spring first arrivals</font>
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</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">These no doubt are Spring First Arrivals, arriving via th=
e route you mentioned. So I will use this opportunity to clarify some of th=
e reasoning behind the species list on the NSBS Spring First Arrivals table=
. <a id=3D"LPlnk999897" href=3D"http://www.nsbirdsociety.ca/library/re=
sources/spring-first-arrivals" style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0=
)" previewremoved=3D"true"><font color=3D"#000000">http://www.nsbirdsociety=
.ca/library/resources/spring-first-arrivals</font></a>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The reason these species are not part of this NSBS dataset: We have ex=
cluded species who have significant overwintering populations in some part =
of NS (see Conclusion section below table), to reduce any entries that requ=
ire assumptions on our part. For
example, did those RB Gulls get blown in from a nearby wintering populatio=
n? Or were the Lesser Black-backs (always a tongue twister) ones already pr=
esent in SW NS (probably not)? Even Baltimore Orioles got nixed due to ambi=
guity. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>NatureNS will be getting regular updates on Spring First Arrivals as t=
he migration season progresses. So please post any sightings. </div>
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Nancy<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"x_x_x_x_AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPad</div>
<div><br>
On Mar 18, 2018, at 9:07 PM, Eric Mills <<a id=3D"LPlnk117973" href=3D"m=
ailto:E.Mills@Dal.Ca" previewremoved=3D"true">E.Mills@Dal.Ca</a>> wrote:=
<br>
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">
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Two that I believe qualify, with=
my justification:</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Ring-billed Gull - March 18. 10 =
bright full adults roosting with Herring Gulls off Privateer Park, Liverpoo=
l, Queens Co., were not present earlier. Throughout the winter 1-2 Ring-bil=
ls, usually first-winter (occasionally
adults) have been present.</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Lesser Black-backed Gull - March=
11. An adult
<i>graellsii</i> arrived among roosting Herring and Greater Black-backed Gu=
lls off Privateer Park, Liverpool, Queens Co., slept for a while, and then =
headed off seaward. The timing is consistent with northward movement from w=
intering areas in the southeastern
USA (likely toward nesting areas in W Greenland or Iceland, although no do=
ubt by easy stages so early in the season).</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0">Eric Mills<br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0; margin-bottom:0"><br>
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