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Hi Jane & All,
The prejudice against "invasives" is spread if not created by=20
organizations; "Send money and we may be able to overcome this crisis."=20
It helps to have a good crap detector when reading anything and an open=20
mind when looking. There may be exceptions but typically "invasive"=20
plants exploit underutilized real estate. And believe it or not, some=20
try to eradicate an invasive by pulling it out thereby creating=20
underutilized real estate on which it or other "invasives" will be able=20
to flourish.
Even native plants may take advantage of bare soil and light. In the=
=20
early 80s a graveled logging road with ditches was built near my woodlot=20
and a common but seldom flowering woodland plant, Petasites palmatus=20
with flowers soon became abundant along part of the ditch. It has a=20
pleasant odor and insects like it so I planted some in the Kentville=20
garden. And soon removed every trace from the garden because it started=20
to spread like a bad weed.
Japanese Knotweed (Polygonum cuspidatum) is another victim of=20
misinformation and the perfect weed-free lawn mentality which assigns=20
total control of all living things to the lawn manager. Bees, (including=20
Honey Bees) and other insects are often abundant on these late flowering=20
plants. And they rarely establish new colonies except when transplanted=20
by earth moving equipment. And patches may remain the same size for many=20
decades if they come up against established plant cover. Along flood=20
prone brooks they can slow soil erosion.
I never appreciated how rapidly secondary succession can change=20
herbaceous plant cover until I visited the same woodlots over a period=20
of decades (78 & 37 yrs). To paraphrase a glib saying; the only constant=20
is change.
And the very small house lot is similar. Plants come and go; the=20
number of species observed has increased over time but as new ones=20
appear some of the old die out. Enough gossip.
Yt, DW, Kentville
------ Original Message ------
From: "David&Jane Schlosberg" <dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: 5/5/2018 6:30:33 PM
Subject: RE: Glossy Buckthorn was :Re[4]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine=20
in Nova Scotia
>David, your posts are always interesting. I consulted Papa Google, and=20
>it seems the glossy buckthorn is damned by a great many people=E2=80=94Nat=
ure=20
>Conservancy, Tree Canada, et al. Could it be that this plant is=20
>damaging to the ecosystem in climates like Ontario, but not such a=20
>problem in Nova Scotia? Your comments have helped me appreciate the=20
>complexity of ecology. It=E2=80=99s worse than middle eastern politics. =
=F0=9F=98=89
>
>
>
>Jane Schlosberg
>
>
>
>From:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> On=20
>Behalf Of David
>Sent: May 5, 2018 5:09 PM
>To:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>Subject: Glossy Buckthorn was :Re[4]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in=20
>Nova Scotia
>
>
>
>Hi Nick & All,
>
> Glossy Buckthorn IMHO is a positive for thinned woodland; thinned=20
>by windfall, tree death or cutting. Provided seeds are present it=20
>becomes established and grows rapidly and thus captures many mobile=20
>nutrients which might otherwise be lost. It discourages the gross=20
>overstocking by Ash which otherwise become a thicket of runts.=20
>Buckthorn, unless held up by other shrubs typically grow lanky, flop=20
>over and die. The odd one survives the floppy stage and generates a=20
>nurse canopy for real trees which typically take longer to get=20
>established. My once Buckthorn thickets are now largely Buckthorn=20
>fragments.
>
> By arrangement I would be delighted to walk anyone interested=20
>through some of the patches which remain. It spreads rapidly because=20
>[gasp] birds mob these shrubs in season. But it does not "invade" small=20
>openings in the canopy so is absent or very sparse in most of my=20
>woodlot.
>
>
>
> Frankly I think the notion that it is undesirable is founded upon=20
>prejudice and nothing else.
>
>
>
>Yt, DW, Kentville
>
>
>
>------ Original Message ------
>
>From: "Nick Hill" <fernhillns@gmail.com>
>
>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>
>Sent: 5/5/2018 4:37:04 PM
>
>Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in Nova Scotia
>
>
>
>>Calm...i lived in southeast Kentucky
>>
>>We had kudzu vine that swallowed abandoned houses...crossex roads via=20
>>phone lines
>>
>>Scary but before we call Jesus and Mary we notice it did not enter=20
>>intact woodland and was restricted to about 30m from the roaside.
>>
>>We do have a couple of plants that are 9f concern because they do get=20
>>into fairly intact ecosystems. I'd put glossy buckthorn at the top of=20
>>the list and then in terms of potential for harm given reports from=20
>>elsewhere, I'd be concerned about the spread of garlic mustard.
>>
>>
>>
>>Glossy? It's naturalized now and is part of swamps and early forest=20
>>succession. It's not the end of the world...its green it's a laxative=20
>>for birds and it fits into a red maple alder tudspuck sedge swamp with=20
>>no apparent diversity or community function effects.
>>
>>
>>
>>Fight clearcutting and our inability to get any marine protected areas=20
>>for the eastern shore because we don't want any impingement on=20
>>rockweed harvest or oil and gas development.
>>
>>
>>
>>Great name!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sat, May 5, 2018, 1:21 PM David, <dwebster@glinx.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Dave P., Bev and all.
>>> What an unfortunate name to be saddled with. Just this side of
>>>'wanted dead or alive'. I wish to add to Bev's comments about the
>>>abundance of 'invasives'.
>>> As a general rule of thumb animals and plants eventually=20
>>>generate
>>>conditions which threaten their well being/survival. And those which
>>>prevail may do so by "invading" fresh territory which is not loaded=20
>>>with
>>>diseases or parasites.
>>> Consequently, if something is threatened the best recovery remedy=
=20
>>>may
>>>be to move a starter kit of it elsewhere. Before lighting long=20
>>>distance
>>>flame throwers think about this in general terms. What is the better
>>>choice 1) act to preserve a flora and fauna which is free of=20
>>>"invasive"
>>>species or 2) act to enable survival of species which may be=20
>>>endangered
>>>?
>>>Yt, DW. Kentville
>>>
>>>------ Original Message ------
>>>From: "Bev Wigney" <bkwigney@gmail.com>
>>>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>>Sent: 5/5/2018 9:35:44 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in Nova Scotia
>>>
>>> >Bad news if Dog-strangling vine (DSV) is here as it is quite a=20
>>>scourge
>>> >in eastern Ontario. Everyone struggles to keep it out of their=20
>>>gardens
>>> >and it grows rampant on vacant properties or even in woodlands. I=20
>>>was
>>> >in Ontario all last summer and went for walks in several places=20
>>>around
>>> >Ottawa and found it growing profusely everywhere. Fred Schueler=20
>>>may
>>> >comment on the prevalence there and perhaps here as well. Another=20
>>>up
>>> >and comer I saw there spreading out from what might have been its
>>> >Ground Zero in an abandoned industrial park was Tartarian Maple.
>>> >*sigh*
>>> >
>>> >As for invasive plants, I haven't found that there is much concern
>>> >over them here in NS although maybe there is a department that=20
>>>records
>>> >such things. I did try to find out about this a few years ago after
>>> >taking note of an incredible acreage which was just covered with a
>>> >non-native vine -- Wisteria sinensis. I made mention of it here on
>>> >NatureNS at the time (summer 2013). It grows rampantly all over the
>>> >woods at this property, but also along the roadside and actually up
>>> >over the powerlines - smothering everything in its path. I've seen=20
>>>it
>>> >spreading out from there, but it seems that is not considered
>>> >problematic. At the time, I did some readng up on it and discovered
>>> >that just about everywhere, it is considered a serious invasive.
>>> >Reminds me of the Japanese Knotweed around here -- growing along=20
>>>Route
>>> >201 and in vacant land in Annapolis Royal. When I first moved here,=
=20
>>>a
>>> >neighbour offered to give me some roots of his "bamboo". He used to
>>> >chop it down and toss it into a ravine on his own property and now
>>> >it's growing down there. I see a lot of it around Bridgetown next=20
>>>to
>>> >the river too. It seems to be everywhere. However, I don't think
>>> >there is much concern. The truth is, here around Annapolis Royal,=20
>>>if
>>> >all of the particularly invasive, non-native plants (multiflora=20
>>>roses,
>>> >goutweed, tansy, knotweed, phragmites, wisteria, etc..) ever
>>> >disappeared overnight, their absence would leave something of a
>>> >wasteland. I suspect European and Asiatic plants probably outnumber
>>> >natives by about 2 to 1. I've found that to be the case with snails
>>> >and slugs and to some extent with insects as well, by the way. No
>>> >doubt, many of these plants came with the settlers and seem to have
>>> >done quite well over the centuries. Definitely has an impact on the
>>> >ecology of the area -- less native plant hosts for our native=20
>>>insects
>>> >-- and so on.
>>> >
>>> >Bev Wigney
>>> >Round Hill
>>> >
>>> >On 5/5/18, David Patriquin <David.Patriquin@dal.ca> wrote:
>>> >>Some discussion about Dog-strangling vine (Cynanchum rossicum &
>>> >>Cynanchum
>>> >>louiseae) came up in a discussion forum on Woods and Waters Nova
>>> >>Scotia; I
>>> >>had not heard of it before in NS and cannot find it in any lists of
>>> >>invasive
>>> >>plants for NS.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>From the discussion forum, from a resident in the Port George area:
>>> >>
>>> >>"...can see out my window where it starts . my next door neighbours
>>> >>bush is
>>> >>blanketed . from the tops of his mature spruce to the ground....the
>>> >>vines
>>> >>next door , that=E2=80=99s where it starts , then it went through our
>>> >>blackberry
>>> >>field and mostly killed it . now it=E2=80=99s in our woods
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>So I am wondering how common it is now in NS - I would appreciate=20
>>>any
>>> >>comments, observations from NatureNS folks
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Another question - is there a group or gov agency in NS that is
>>> >>actively
>>> >>keeping track of invasive plants?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>At http://www.invasivespeciescentre.ca/ its distribution is cited=20
>>>as "
>>> >>in
>>> >>parts of Ontario, southern Quebec and several American states"
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Short description
>>> >>
>>> >>Dog-strangling vine is found in parts of Ontario, southern Quebec=20
>>>and
>>> >>several American states. This plant grows aggressively by wrapping
>>> >>itself
>>> >>around tress and other plants, and can grow up to two metres high.
>>> >>This
>>> >>forms dense stands that overwhelm and crowd out native plants and
>>> >>young
>>> >>trees, preventing forest regeneration. The plant produces=20
>>>bean-shaped
>>> >>seed
>>> >>pods for to seven centimetres long and pink to dark purple=20
>>>star-shaped
>>> >>flowers
>>> >>
>>>
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v>Hi Jane & All,</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The prejudice against "invasiv=
es" is spread if not created by organizations; "Send money and we may be ab=
le to overcome this crisis." It helps to have a good crap detector when rea=
ding anything and an open mind when looking. There may be exceptions but ty=
pically "invasive" plants exploit underutilized real estate. And believe it =
or not, some try to eradicate an invasive by pulling it out thereby creati=
ng underutilized real estate on which it or other "invasives" will be able=
to flourish.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Even native plants may take adva=
ntage of bare soil and light. In the early 80s a graveled logging road with =
ditches was built near my woodlot and a common but seldom flowering woodla=
nd plant, Petasites palmatus with flowers soon became abundant along part o=
f the ditch. It has a pleasant odor and insects like it so I planted some i=
n the Kentville garden. And soon removed every trace from the garden becaus=
e it started to spread like a bad weed.</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Japanese Kn=
otweed (Polygonum cuspidatum) is another victim of misinformation and the p=
erfect weed-free lawn mentality which assigns total control of all living t=
hings to the lawn manager. Bees, (including Honey Bees) and other insects a=
re often abundant on these late flowering plants. And they rarely establish =
new colonies except when transplanted by earth moving equipment. And patch=
es may remain the same size for many decades if they come up against establ=
ished plant cover. Along flood prone brooks they can slow soil erosion.=C2=
=A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I never appreciated how rapidly secondary succe=
ssion can change herbaceous plant cover until I visited the same woodlots o=
ver a period of decades (78 & 37 yrs). To paraphrase a glib saying; the =
only constant is change.</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0And the very small=
house lot is similar. Plants come and go; the number of species observed ha=
s increased over time but as new ones appear some of the old die out. Enoug=
h gossip.</div><div>Yt, DW, Kentville=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0</=
div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>------ Original Message ------</div>
<div>From: "David&Jane Schlosberg" <<a href=3D"mailto:dschlosb-g@ns.=
sympatico.ca">dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca</a>></div>
<div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=
</a></div>
<div>Sent: 5/5/2018 6:30:33 PM</div>
<div>Subject: RE: Glossy Buckthorn was :Re[4]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vi=
ne in Nova Scotia</div><div><br /></div>
<div id=3D"x583c2dbaec784d9"><blockquote cite=3D"017801d3e4b8$4ceaad80$e6c0=
0880$@ns.sympatico.ca" type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite2">
<div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">David, your posts are al=
ways interesting.=C2=A0 I consulted Papa Google, and it seems the glossy bu=
ckthorn is damned by a great many people=E2=80=94Nature Conservancy, Tree C=
anada, et al.=C2=A0 Could it be that this plant is damaging to the ecosyste=
m in climates like Ontario, but not such a problem in Nova Scotia?=C2=A0 Yo=
ur comments have helped me appreciate the complexity of ecology.=C2=A0 It=
=E2=80=99s worse than middle eastern politics. <span style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">=F0=9F=98=89</span><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#u=
nknown"></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</=
o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jane Schlosberg<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o=
:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></p><di=
v><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0c=
m 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens-o=
wner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>> <b>O=
n Behalf Of </b>David<br /><b>Sent:</b> May 5, 2018 5:09 PM<br /><b>To:</b> =
naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br=
/><b>Subject:</b> Glossy Buckthorn was :Re[4]: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vi=
ne in Nova Scotia<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></p></div></div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sa=
ns-serif">Hi Nick & All,<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Tahoma",sans-serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Glossy Buckthorn IMHO =C2=A0is=
a positive for thinned woodland; thinned by windfall, tree death or cutting=
. Provided seeds are present it becomes established and grows rapidly and t=
hus captures many mobile nutrients which might otherwise be lost. It discou=
rages the gross overstocking by Ash which otherwise become a thicket of run=
ts. Buckthorn, unless held up by other shrubs typically grow lanky, flop ov=
er and die. The odd one survives the floppy stage and generates a nurse can=
opy for real trees which typically take longer to get established. My once=
Buckthorn thickets are now largely Buckthorn fragments.=C2=A0<o:p xmlns:o=
=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 By arrangement I would be delighted to walk anyone interested through s=
ome of the patches which remain.<i>=C2=A0</i>It spreads rapidly because [ga=
sp] birds mob these shrubs in season. But it does not "invade" small openin=
gs in the canopy so is absent or very sparse in most of my woodlot.=C2=A0<o=
:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Taho=
ma",sans-serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Frankly I think the notion tha=
t it is undesirable is founded upon prejudice and nothing else.<o:p xmlns:o=
=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0=C2=A0<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",s=
ans-serif">Yt, DW, Kentville<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Tahoma",sans-serif"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">------ Original Message ------<o:p xm=
lns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From: =
"Nick Hill" <<a href=3D"mailto:fernhillns@gmail.com">fernhillns@gmail.c=
om</a>><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",=
sans-serif">To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebuct=
o.ns.ca</a><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma&quo=
t;,sans-serif">Sent: 5/5/2018 4:37:04 PM<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Do=
g-strangling vine in Nova Scotia<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div id=3D"xa75bc5fe77ef49f"><blockquote style=3D"border:none=
;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 8.0pt;margin-left:3.75=
pt;margin-top:2.25pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",=
sans-serif">Calm...i lived in southeast Kentucky<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"><=
/o:p></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt=
;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">We had kudzu vine=C2=A0 that sw=
allowed abandoned houses...crossex roads via phone lines<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#un=
known"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Scary but before=
we call Jesus and Mary we notice it did not enter intact woodland and was r=
estricted to about 30m from the roaside.<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">We do have a couple of plants tha=
t are 9f concern because they do get into fairly intact ecosystems. I'd put =
glossy buckthorn at the top of the list and then in terms of potential for =
harm given reports from elsewhere, I'd be concerned about the spread of ga=
rlic mustard.<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma&quo=
t;,sans-serif"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ta=
homa",sans-serif">Glossy? It's naturalized now and is part of swamps a=
nd early forest succession. It's not the end of the world...its green it's=
a laxative for birds and it fits into a red maple alder tudspuck sedge swam=
p with no apparent diversity or community function effects.<o:p xmlns:o=3D"=
#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><o:p xmlns:o=
=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Figh=
t clearcutting and our inability to get any marine protected areas for the=
eastern shore because we don't want any impingement on rockweed harvest or=
oil and gas development.<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"=
;Tahoma",sans-serif"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=C2=A0</o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Great name!<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:=
p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12=
.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown">=
=C2=A0</o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">On Sat, May 5, 2018=
, 1:21 PM David, <<a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">dwebster@glinx.c=
om</a>> wrote:<o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknown"></o:p></span></p></div><blockquo=
te style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"=
margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Tah=
oma",sans-serif">Hi Dave P., Bev and all.<br />=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Wha=
t an unfortunate name to be saddled with. Just this side of <br />'wanted d=
ead or alive'. I wish to add to Bev's comments about the <br />abundance of =
'invasives'.<br />=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0As a general rule of thumb animals a=
nd plants eventually generate <br />conditions which threaten their well be=
ing/survival. And those which <br />prevail may do so by "invading" fresh t=
erritory which is not loaded with <br />diseases or parasites.<br />=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 Consequently, if something is threatened the best recovery remedy m=
ay <br />be to move a starter kit of it elsewhere. Before lighting long dis=
tance <br />flame throwers think about this in general terms. What is the b=
etter <br />choice 1) act to preserve a flora and fauna which is free of "i=
nvasive" <br />species or 2) act to enable survival of species which may be =
endangered <br />?<br />Yt, DW. Kentville<br /><br />------ Original Messa=
ge ------<br />From: "Bev Wigney" <<a href=3D"mailto:bkwigney@gmail.com"=
>bkwigney@gmail.com</a>><br />To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns=
.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><br />Sent: 5/5/2018 9:35:44 AM<br />Subjec=
t: Re: [NatureNS] Dog-strangling vine in Nova Scotia<br /><br />>Bad new=
s if Dog-strangling vine (DSV) is here as it is quite a scourge<br />>in =
eastern Ontario. Everyone struggles to keep it out of their gardens<br />&=
gt;and it grows rampant on vacant properties or even in woodlands.=C2=A0 I=
was<br />>in Ontario all last summer and went for walks in several place=
s around<br />>Ottawa and found it growing profusely everywhere.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0Fred Schueler may<br />>comment on the prevalence there and perha=
ps here as well.=C2=A0 Another up<br />>and comer I saw there spreading=
out from what might have been its<br />>Ground Zero in an abandoned indu=
strial park was Tartarian Maple.<br />>*sigh*<br />><br />>As for=
invasive plants, I haven't found that there is much concern<br />>over t=
hem here in NS although maybe there is a department that records<br />>s=
uch things.=C2=A0 I did try to find out about this a few years ago after<br =
/>>taking note of an incredible acreage which was just covered with a<b=
r />>non-native vine -- Wisteria sinensis.=C2=A0 I made mention of it he=
re on<br />>NatureNS at the time (summer 2013).=C2=A0 It grows rampantly =
all over the<br />>woods at this property, but also along the roadside=
and actually up<br />>over the powerlines - smothering everything in its =
path.=C2=A0 I've seen it<br />>spreading out from there, but it seems t=
hat is not considered<br />>problematic.=C2=A0 At the time, I did some r=
eadng up on it and discovered<br />>that just about everywhere, it is co=
nsidered a serious invasive.<br />>Reminds me of the Japanese Knotweed a=
round here -- growing along Route<br />>201 and in vacant land in Annapo=
lis Royal.=C2=A0 When I first moved here, a<br />>neighbour offered to g=
ive me some roots of his "bamboo".=C2=A0 He used to<br />>chop it down a=
nd toss it into a ravine on his own property and now<br />>it's growing=
down there.=C2=A0 I see a lot of it around Bridgetown next to<br />>the=
river too.=C2=A0 It seems to be everywhere.=C2=A0 =C2=A0However, I don't th=
ink<br />>there is much concern.=C2=A0 The truth is, here around Annapol=
is Royal, if<br />>all of the particularly invasive, non-native plants (=
multiflora roses,<br />>goutweed, tansy, knotweed, phragmites, wisteria,=
=C2=A0 etc..) ever<br />>disappeared overnight, their absence would leav=
e something of a<br />>wasteland.=C2=A0 I suspect European and Asiatic p=
lants probably outnumber<br />>natives by about 2 to 1.=C2=A0 I've found =
that to be the case with snails<br />>and slugs and=C2=A0 to some exten=
t with insects as well, by the way.=C2=A0 No<br />>doubt, many of these=
plants came with the settlers and seem to have<br />>done quite well ove=
r the centuries. Definitely has an impact on the<br />>ecology of the ar=
ea -- less native plant hosts for our native insects<br />>-- and so on.=
<br />><br />>Bev Wigney<br />>Round Hill<br />><br />>On 5/=
5/18, David Patriquin <<a href=3D"mailto:David.Patriquin@dal.ca">David.P=
atriquin@dal.ca</a>> wrote:<br />>>Some discussion about Dog-stran=
gling vine (Cynanchum rossicum & <br />>>Cynanchum<br />>>l=
ouiseae) came up in a discussion forum on Woods and Waters Nova <br />>&=
gt;Scotia; I<br />>>had not heard of it before in NS and cannot find=
it in any lists of <br />>>invasive<br />>>plants for NS.<br />=
>><br />>><br />>>From the discussion forum, from a resid=
ent in the Port George area:<br />>><br />>>"...can see out my=
window where it starts . my next door neighbours <br />>>bush is<br /=
>>>blanketed . from the tops of his mature spruce to the ground....th=
e <br />>>vines<br />>>next door , that=E2=80=99s where it star=
ts , then it went through our <br />>>blackberry<br />>>field a=
nd mostly killed it . now it=E2=80=99s in our woods<br />>><br />>=
><br />>>So I am wondering how common it is now in NS - I would ap=
preciate any<br />>>comments, observations from NatureNS folks<br />&=
gt;><br />>><br />>>Another question - is there a group or g=
ov agency in NS that is <br />>>actively<br />>>keeping track o=
f invasive plants?<br />>><br />>><br />>>At <a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.invasivespeciescentre.ca/">http://www.invasivespeciescentre.ca/</=
a> its distribution is cited as " <br />>>in<br />>>parts of On=
tario, southern Quebec and several American states"<br />>><br />>=
><br />>>Short description<br />>><br />>>Dog-strangli=
ng vine is found in parts of Ontario, southern Quebec and<br />>>seve=
ral American states. This plant grows aggressively by wrapping <br />>&g=
t;itself<br />>>around tress and other plants, and can grow up to two =
metres high. <br />>>This<br />>>forms dense stands that overw=
helm and crowd out native plants and <br />>>young<br />>>trees=
, preventing forest regeneration. The plant produces bean-shaped <br />>=
>seed<br />>>pods for to seven centimetres long and pink to dark p=
urple star-shaped<br />>>flowers<br />>><o:p xmlns:o=3D"#unknow=
n"></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquot=
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