Re[2]: [NatureNS] A Hummingbird Story... maybe someone could comment

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Hi All,
     Just from first principles (large area/ unit mass) I would suspect=20
exposure. We have had some cold weather and the effect would cumulate.=20
My animal metabolism is 65 years rusty but I suspect a body taken to the=20
right lab would help decide one way or another; very low fat.
     As for the female being concerned about her mate or kin; that does=20
not sound unusual. Geese mate for life. Parents go bonkers when a nest=20
is under attack or falls. Mother hens protect their chicks. Several days=20
ago an associate told me that while driving through New Minas a bird was=20
hit by a vehicle and a second bird flew in and landed near it in spite=20
of heavy traffic.
Yt, DW, Kentville

------ Original Message ------
From: "Ken McKenna" <kenmcken54@eastlink.ca>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: 6/5/2018 4:22:44 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] A Hummingbird Story... maybe someone could=20
comment

>Hi Billy
>Sounds like the problem might have been more widespread. This is a note=20
>I received today from Lanark-Antigonish Harbour area.
>
>
>=E2=80=9CWondering if you are hearing of any unusual Hummer deaths? I have =
had=20
>three the past week and don't know what to make of it. Had to pry a=20
>female with rigor mortis off a feeder this a.m. The nectar I use is=20
>fresh every day and I have been feeding up to to 12 birds daily. If=20
>this is unique to me perhaps it is just an older population? Of course=20
>the temps. have been really cold overnight and it has been wet.Have not=20
>had this problem before.Hope it is not a disease!=E2=80=9D
>
>Sounds to me like the cold might be doing them in. At 10:00 this=20
>morning it was still only 3C in the Trafalgar area, Pictou Co.=20
>Hopefully the cold will soon disappear.  Most of my garden grape leaves=20
>are toast now as well after the frost earlier this week.
>
>
>Cheers
>Ken
>
>
>Sent from my iPad
>Ken McKenna
>Stellarton
>NS
>
>On Jun 5, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Randy Lauff <randy.lauff@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Given the abundance of food you provide, I'm suspecting there was=20
>>something other than exposure involved...it could have been parasites=20
>>or an illness. That is an interesting observation of the attending=20
>>female; I've not heard of it before.
>>
>>Randy
>>
>>_________________________________
>>RF Lauff
>>Way in the boonies of
>>Antigonish County, NS.
>>
>>On 4 June 2018 at 17:45, bdigout <bdigout@seaside.ns.ca> wrote:
>>>I got a call around 9:00 last night from Clarence Landry of Seaview,=20
>>>Rich. Co., concerned about a male Hummer fluffed up and literally=20
>>>"stuck" to his feeder.  He was concerned it might be in ill health. I=20
>>>told him it was probably very cold.  He called back later saying that=20
>>>he had gone outside and found the male on the ground beneath the=20
>>>feeder, not moving, and with a female sitting close against it.  He=20
>>>took them both in the house and left them in a covered box overnight.=20
>>>  This morning the male was dead and the female flew away as soon as=20
>>>he released it outside.  It then went directly to the feeder.  Was=20
>>>the male sick, or would it have frozen? Is this common behavior for=20
>>>the female to stick close by a sick/dying mate?
>>>Billy
>>>
>>
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v>Hi All,</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Just from first principles (large area/ u=
nit mass) I would suspect exposure. We have had some cold weather and the e=
ffect would cumulate. My animal metabolism is 65 years rusty but I suspect=
 a body taken to the right lab would help decide one way or another; very lo=
w fat.</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As for the female being concerned about her=
=C2=A0mate or kin; that does not sound unusual. Geese mate for life. Parent=
s go bonkers when a nest is under attack or falls. Mother hens protect thei=
r chicks. Several days ago an associate told me that while driving through=
 New Minas a bird was hit by a vehicle and a second bird flew in and landed=
 near it in spite of heavy traffic. =C2=A0</div><div>Yt, DW, Kentville</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>------ Original Message ------</div>
<div>From: "Ken McKenna" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kenmcken54@eastlink.ca">kenm=
cken54@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</div>
<div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=
</a></div>
<div>Sent: 6/5/2018 4:22:44 PM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] A Hummingbird Story... maybe someone could com=
ment</div><div><br /></div>
<div id=3D"xa94c40fde2f947a"><blockquote cite=3D"72E8F50B-16B9-4269-A33D-7E=
A7B1AD38B5@eastlink.ca" type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite2">
Hi Billy=C2=A0<div>Sounds like the problem might have been more widespread. =
This is a note I received today from Lanark-Antigonish Harbour area.=C2=A0=
</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><div><span style=3D"background=
-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">=E2=80=9CWondering if you are hearing of a=
ny unusual Hummer deaths? I have had three the past week and don't know wha=
t to make of it. Had to pry a female with rigor mortis off a feeder this a.=
m. The nectar I use is fresh every day and I have been feeding up to to 12=
 birds daily. If this is unique to me perhaps it is just an older population=
? Of course the temps. have been really cold overnight and it has been wet.=
Have not had this problem before.Hope it is not a disease!=E2=80=9D</span><=
/div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br /><=
/span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">=
Sounds to me like the cold might be doing them in. At 10:00 this morning it =
was still only 3C in the Trafalgar area, Pictou Co. Hopefully the cold wil=
l soon disappear. =C2=A0Most of my garden grape leaves are toast now as wel=
l after the frost earlier this week.=C2=A0</span></div><div><span style=3D"=
background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br /></span></div><div><span st=
yle=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br /></span></div><div><=
span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Cheers</span></div=
><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Ken=C2=A0</=
span></div><div><br /></div><br /><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Sent from=
 my iPad<div>Ken McKenna</div><div>Stellarton=C2=A0</div><div>NS=C2=A0</div>=
</div><div><br />On Jun 5, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Randy Lauff &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:randy.lauff@gmail.com">randy.lauff@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br /><br />=
</div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Given=
 the abundance of food you provide, I'm suspecting there was something other =
than exposure involved...it could have been parasites or an illness. That=
 is an interesting observation of the attending female; I've not heard of it =
before.<div><br /></div><div>Randy</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
br clear=3D"all" /><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gm=
ail_signature">_________________________________<br />RF Lauff<br />Way in=
 the boonies of<br />Antigonish County, NS.</div></div>
<br /><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 4 June 2018 at 17:45, bdigout <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bdigout@seaside.ns.ca">bdigout@seaside.ns.ca=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br /><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I got a call aro=
und 9:00 last night from Clarence Landry of Seaview, Rich. Co., concerned a=
bout a male Hummer fluffed up and literally "stuck" to his feeder.=C2=A0 He =
was concerned it might be in ill health. I told him it was probably very c=
old.=C2=A0 He called back later saying that he had gone outside and found t=
he male on the ground beneath the feeder, not moving, and with a female sit=
ting close against it.=C2=A0 He took them both in the house and left them i=
n a covered box overnight.=C2=A0 This morning the male was dead and the fem=
ale flew away as soon as he released it outside.=C2=A0 It then went directl=
y to the feeder.=C2=A0 Was the male sick, or would it have frozen? Is this=
 common behavior for the female to stick close by a sick/dying mate?<br />
Billy<br />
<br />
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