Re[3]: [NatureNS] Which Cherry?

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Hi All,
     The yard has for several days had flurries of shedding Black Cherry=20
petals whereas nearby Choke Cherry are in fruit. Most sources indicate=20
Black Cherry to flower earlier than Choke but with a broad overlap.
     This disparity is a good example of the large variation of a given=20
character within a species; fodder for evolution.
Yt, DW, Kentville

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From: "David" <dwebster@glinx.com>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: 6/11/2018 6:39:20 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Which Cherry?

>Hi All,
>     With regard to the question "Is this choke cherry or black cherry"=20
>my answer is "Yes, without doubt it is either one or the other." In=20
>general, photographs are not diagnostic. I frequently can not recognize=20
>photographs of plants which I have seen and known for 78 years.
>     For a sometimes certain ID, one should have a flora, a hand lens=20
>and time to learn.
>Yt, DW, Kentville
>
>------ Original Message ------
>From: "Randy Lauff" <randy.lauff@gmail.com>
>To: "NatureNS" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
>Sent: 6/11/2018 4:36:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Which Cherry?
>
>>Wasn't one of the differentiating field marks the presence or absence=20
>>of pruinosity along the midrib of the underside of the leaf? I don't=20
>>remember which had or didn't have that though.
>>
>>Randy
>>
>>_________________________________
>>RF Lauff
>>Way in the boonies of
>>Antigonish County, NS.
>>
>>On 11 June 2018 at 12:55, David&Jane Schlosberg=20
>><dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>I vote for black cherry.  The leaves look too long for choke cherry.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>=20
>>>On Behalf Of NancyDowd
>>>Sent: June 11, 2018 12:06 PM
>>>To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>>>Subject: [NatureNS] Which Cherry?
>>>
>>>Offhand I would have said this small tree was a Chokecherry (Prunus=20
>>>virginiana). But after checking I see it is more likely a Black=20
>>>Cherry (P. serotina) based on the leaves being fully out while in=20
>>>flower and the length of the hanging flower clusters. Which ID is=20
>>>correct? As the captions say, the leaves are ~3=E2=80=9D long.
>>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/150605880@N07/27867176277/in/dateposted-pu=
blic/=20
>>><https://www.flickr.com/photos/150605880@N07/27867176277/in/dateposted-p=
ublic/>
>>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/150605880@N07/42686769842/in/dateposted-pu=
blic/=20
>>><https://www.flickr.com/photos/150605880@N07/42686769842/in/dateposted-p=
ublic/>
>>>
>>>Thanks, Nancy
>>>E Dalhousie, Kings Co.
>>>
>>
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v>Hi All,</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The yard has for several days had flurrie=
s of shedding Black Cherry petals whereas nearby Choke Cherry are in fruit. =
Most sources indicate Black Cherry to flower earlier than Choke but with a =
broad overlap.=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 This disparity is a good exam=
ple of the large variation of a given character within a species; fodder fo=
r evolution.</div><div>Yt, DW, Kentville</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>------ Original Message ------</div>
<div>From: "David" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">dwebster@glinx=
.com</a>&gt;</div>
<div>To: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=
</a></div>
<div>Sent: 6/11/2018 6:39:20 PM</div>
<div>Subject: Re[2]: [NatureNS] Which Cherry?</div><div><br /></div>
<div id=3D"x1e152a8a9f1f465"><blockquote cite=3D"emad5db5ea-4331-4e84-9765-=
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<div>Hi All,</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 With regard to the question "Is this c=
hoke cherry or black cherry" my answer is "Yes, without doubt it is either=
 one or the other." In general, photographs are not diagnostic. I frequently =
can not recognize photographs of plants which I have seen and known for 78 =
years.</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0For a sometimes certain ID, one s=
hould have a flora, a hand lens and time to learn.=C2=A0</div><div>Yt, DW,=
 Kentville</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>------ Original Message ------</div>
<div>From: "Randy Lauff" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:randy.lauff@gmail.com">randy=
.lauff@gmail.com</a>&gt;</div>
<div>To: "NatureNS" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens=
@chebucto.ns.ca</a>&gt;</div>
<div>Sent: 6/11/2018 4:36:03 PM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Which Cherry?</div><div><br /></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Wasn't one of the differentiating field marks the presence =
or absence of pruinosity along the midrib of the underside of the leaf? I=
 don't remember which had or didn't have that though.<div><br /></div><div>R=
andy</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all" /><div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">________________=
_________________<br />RF Lauff<br />Way in the boonies of<br />Antigonish=
 County, NS.</div></div>
<br /><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11 June 2018 at 12:55, David&amp;Jane S=
chlosberg <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.c=
a">dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br /><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">I vote for black cherry.=C2=A0 The leaves look too long for c=
hoke cherry.<br />
<br />
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From: <a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens-owner@chebu=
cto.ns.ca</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens=
-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a><wbr>&gt; On Behalf Of NancyDowd<br />
Sent: June 11, 2018 12:06 PM<br />
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<=
br />
Subject: [NatureNS] Which Cherry?<br />
<br />
Offhand I would have said this small tree was a Chokecherry (Prunus virgini=
ana). But after checking I see it is more likely a Black Cherry (P. serotin=
a) based on the leaves being fully out while in flower and the length of th=
e hanging flower clusters. Which ID is correct? As the captions say, the le=
aves are ~3=E2=80=9D long.<br />
<a href=3D"https://www.flickr.com/photos/150605880@N07/27867176277/in/datep=
osted-public/" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.flickr.com/photos/<wbr>150605=
880@N07/27867176277/in/<wbr>dateposted-public/</wbr></wbr></a><br />
<a href=3D"https://www.flickr.com/photos/150605880@N07/42686769842/in/datep=
osted-public/" rel=3D"noreferrer" style=3D"">https://www.flickr.com/photos/=
<wbr>150605880@N07/42686769842/in/<wbr>dateposted-public/</wbr></wbr></a><b=
r />
<br />
Thanks, Nancy<br />
E Dalhousie, Kings Co.<br />
<br />
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