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Hi All, Dave S. & Nick,
Roland notes that it rarely sets seed in NS so I would not
worry about it spreading like wildfire. The Loyalists were refugees so
largely came with a minimum of baggage. The fortunate ones had the
protection of British forces but some barely escaped via woods with just
the clothes on their back. In either case trees would not have been a
priority.
But subsequently there was much US/Canada traffic of people and
goods so I expect it came by trade or individual interest. Black Locust
is prized for fence posts because it is rot resistant but apparently can
sucker and spread in that way.
Invasive plants serve a useful purpose. They take advantage of
disturbed soil and thus help minimize erosion.
Dave W. Kentville
On 4/21/2019 12:50 PM, Nick Hill wrote:
> The black locust is an early successional tree of the Appalachian
> deciduous forest. That it was planted by Loyalists is pertinent if we
> can know 2here that genetic stock came from. With climate change
> temperature changes are moving faster than trees so any trees from
> further south that can make it here to diversify our forest is a good
> thing. We worry about "invasive " trees and shrubs filling the
> ecological niches created by changed climate and by abandoned farmland
> (see rose multiflora in old pastures). Trees and shrubs from the
> Appalachian deciduous forest may help prevent the incursions of
> exotics. They also replace the trees we are losing due to disease..
> hemlock ash etc.
> I have seen pods of Robinia ..the locust..but not found viable seed.
> Is this true? Is it due to climate or to incompatibility...that they
> need another individual to mate w and can't self pollinate?
>
> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019, 12:01 PM David Simpson, <david.sonsimp@gmail.com
> <mailto:david.sonsimp@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Curious if anyone knows much about how/when Black Locust came to
> be planted in Nova Scotia. Perhaps it came with the Loyalists
> following the Revolution for use on their homesteads? Or did it
> come more recently for sale in 20th century garden centers?
>
> It is an undeniably utilitarian plant - fast growing, hot burning,
> rot resistant hardwood, mega flowerer, animal fodder (?). It is
> also considered invasive by many, I believe planting is restricted
> in the NE US.
>
> All to say, im a little conflicted about planting this tree here.
> Just looking for opinions, to discuss this non native, naturalized
> to NS tree.
>
> Dave in Currys Corner
>
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<p>Hi All, Dave S. & Nick,</p>
<p> Roland notes that it rarely sets seed in NS so I would
not worry about it spreading like wildfire. The Loyalists were
refugees so largely came with a minimum of baggage. The fortunate
ones had the protection of British forces but some barely escaped
via woods with just the clothes on their back. In either case
trees would not have been a priority.</p>
<p> But subsequently there was much US/Canada traffic of people
and goods so I expect it came by trade or individual interest.
Black Locust is prized for fence posts because it is rot resistant
but apparently can sucker and spread in that way.</p>
<p> Invasive plants serve a useful purpose. They take advantage
of disturbed soil and thus help minimize erosion. <br>
</p>
<p>Dave W. Kentville<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/21/2019 12:50 PM, Nick Hill wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">The black locust is an early successional tree of
the Appalachian deciduous forest. That it was planted by
Loyalists is pertinent if we can know 2here that genetic stock
came from. With climate change temperature changes are moving
faster than trees so any trees from further south that can make
it here to diversify our forest is a good thing. We worry about
"invasive " trees and shrubs filling the ecological niches
created by changed climate and by abandoned farmland (see rose
multiflora in old pastures). Trees and shrubs from the
Appalachian deciduous forest may help prevent the incursions of
exotics. They also replace the trees we are losing due to
disease.. hemlock ash etc.
<div dir="auto">I have seen pods of Robinia ..the locust..but
not found viable seed. Is this true? Is it due to climate or
to incompatibility...that they need another individual to mate
w and can't self pollinate?</div>
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<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 21, 2019, 12:01 PM
David Simpson, <<a href="mailto:david.sonsimp@gmail.com"
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wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Curious if anyone knows much about how/when
Black Locust came to be planted in Nova Scotia. Perhaps it
came with the Loyalists following the Revolution for use on
their homesteads? Or did it come more recently for sale in
20th century garden centers?
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">It is an undeniably utilitarian plant - fast
growing, hot burning, rot resistant hardwood, mega
flowerer, animal fodder (?). It