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Not only that, as you can see from the graphic at the bottom of the page be=
low, at least 2/3 of the potential energy in gasoline does not even go into=
moving a car!
https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Energy_loss
Electric cars do not have that large loss from heat. friction, etc., and as=
you pointed out, some of the energy that goes towards making the car move =
can be regained by regenerative braking, also not an option on an internal =
combustion engine.
Pat
On Mar 31, 2020, at 3:48 PM, David Webster wrote:
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Hi Patrick & All,
Good point. Electric vehicles especially make sense for stop/start function=
s such as transit because conserving momentum, by running a generator to a=
ct as a brake, makes it possible to in effect reuse part of the momentum.
DW,Kentville
On 3/31/2020 12:45 PM, Patrick Kelly wrote:
Electric vehicles are another way. Alberta is currently home to Canada's la=
rgest wind farm and is about to became home to its largest PV array. Both a=
re in Vulcan County... which is only logical :-) They could easily do the s=
ame in Saskatchewan.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/largest-solar-installation-alberta-g=
reengate-1.5261539
I also came across a story a few years ago of a fellow who is converting di=
esel farm tractors over to electric ones. (Google electric farm tractor) On=
e side benefit that one farmer noticed right away is that they are so quiet=
he can actually talk to people while he is using it!
Pat
On Mar 29, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Lois Codling wrote:
CAUTION: The Sender of this email is not from within Dalhousie.
Hi Dave,
My husband is from Sask., and this is his comment:
"What Dave proposes is easy to do in Europe, where distances are short
and population dense. What kind of public transit helps a Saskatchewan
farmer whose nearest neighbours are about a mile away?"
Even here, we are about 1/2 hr. from the Halifax hospitals, and we spent
over 6 yrs. driving my father there for dialysis 3 times a week. Public
transport was not an option for him, even by Access-a-bus. Unless
Canadians live in a large city I think we do need our cars and thus our
roads, though I have a lot of sympathy for your good reasons for doing
away with highways.
Lois Codling
L. Sackville
On 3/29/2020 12:26 PM, David Webster wrote:
Hi Burkhard & All,
You open the door to some important topics.
While the rapid response to Covid-19, in most jurisdictions, shows
that governments can respond to an 'imminent hanging', Covid-19 is a
Sunday School picnic compared to the consequences of run-away Climate
Change. It has been obvious for at least 60 years that Climate Change
was the only real problem the world faces but action has been limited
to vague promises to meet targets by some future date. Many European
countries have acted responsibly but on a per capita basis Canada and
the USA are slackers.
And the solution is self evident; replace 90% of auto and truck
traffic with efficient public transit and rail respectively. The big
question is--- How does one convince a corruption of cheerful liars,
AKA politicians, to act responsibly ?
And this high volume of vehicle traffic, in addition to the
release of fossil carbon, has a huge impact on the natural world;
directly and indirectly. Brooklyn St. in Kentville runs West from
Cornwallis St. along the North side of the Cornwallis meadow. I often
have walked along this road over some 50 years. Road kill Painted
Turtle were fairly common there shortly west of the Hospital road
until about 2000 (guess); none since. So I have concluded that the
local PT colony has been exterminated.
Small man-made barriers are huge for small animals. A highway cut
in that same area has generated a Toad barrier. They can not get where
they think they must go. Some decades ago a grader had generated a
ridge of gravel, about a foot high, in the middle of the rail trail. I
watched a fair sized Garter Snake attempting to cross that; not possible.
If small changes have such impacts one should contemplate the
enormous impact of the 100 series highways which have fragmented the
landscape into untold numbers of isolated shards.
The typical back country road had no ditches to speak of until
urban sprawl forced 'improvements', so in spring there was a necklace
of isolated pools each with numerous tadpoles; which in turn became
frogs or toads. Back about 1942-50 when I helped mow swails, which
were too wet for the horse, with a scythe the swails were alive with
frogs. Plop, plop, plop with every scythe swing, and the same when you
carried a fork load of mowed sedges to dry ground. One year in
college, ca 1952, the usual frogs for dissection were unavailable so
the proff. asked me to collect 25. No sweat. It would be difficult
now. Fred somebody, at Acadia, did a survey of amphibia populations
but refused to allow historical comments; how useful.
We had a cottage at Sunken Lake from 1970 to 1991. Initially, the
wave lapped beach gravel swarmed with penny toads in season and at
night the cottage wall was covered with insects. Long before 1991 the
toads were gone and by 1991 one insect on the wall was an event. The
public road, where there was never more then slow and light traffic,
fresh road kill snakes and Dragon flies were predictable.
So I am absolutely sure that motor vehicle traffic is very
destructive of the natural world, both in the short and long term. The
solution must be to somehow renew public transit so it displaces the
lure of wall to wall motor vehicles.
Yt, DW, Kentville
On 3/29/2020 10:15 AM, Burkhard Plache wrote:
Given the current slowdown of life,
vehicle traffic has been reduced significantly.
It is likely to early to say if this has an impact
on vehicles killing wildlife. Also, many birds
have not arrived yet, turtles have not emerged yet, ...
Simply curious,
Burkhard
Patrick Kelly
159 Town Road
Falmouth NS B0P 1L0
Canada
(902) 472-2322
Patrick Kelly
159 Town Road
Falmouth NS B0P 1L0
Canada
(902) 472-2322
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Not only that, as you can see from the graphic at the bottom of the page be=
low, at least 2/3 of the potential energy in gasoline does not even go into=
moving a car!
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<div><a href=3D"https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Energy_loss">https:=
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<div>Electric cars do not have that large loss from heat. friction, etc., a=
nd as you pointed out, some of the energy that goes towards making the car =
move can be regained by regenerative braking, also not an option on an inte=
rnal combustion engine. </div>
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<p>Hi Patrick & All,<br>
</p>
<p>Good point. Electric vehicles especially make sense for stop/start funct=
ions such as transit because conserving momentum, by running a genera=
tor to act as a brake, makes it possible to in effect reuse part of the mom=
entum.</p>
<p>DW,Kentville<br>
</p>
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dal.ca">
<div>Electric vehicles are another way. Alberta is currently home to Canada=
's largest wind farm and is about to became home to its largest PV array. B=
oth are in Vulcan County... which is only logical :-) They could easily do =
the same in Saskatchewan.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href=3D"https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/largest-solar-instal=
lation-alberta-greengate-1.5261539" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">https://www.cb=
c.ca/news/canada/calgary/largest-solar-installation-alberta-greengate-1.526=
1539</a></div>
<div><br>
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<div>I also came across a story a few years ago of a fellow who is converti=
ng diesel farm tractors over to electric ones. (Google electric farm tracto=
r) One side benefit that one farmer noticed right away is that they are so =
quiet he can actually talk to people
while he is using it!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Pat</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<div>On Mar 29, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Lois Codling wrote:</div>
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<div>CAUTION: The Sender of this email is not from within Dalhousie.<br>
<br>
Hi Dave,<br>
<br>
My husband is from Sask., and this is his comment:<br>
"What Dave proposes is easy to do in Europe, where distances are short=
<br>
and population dense. What kind of public transit helps a Saskatchewan<br>
farmer whose nearest neighbours are about a mile away?"<br>
<br>
Even here, we are about 1/2 hr. from the Halifax hospitals, and we spent<br=
>
over 6 yrs. driving my father there for dialysis 3 times a week. Publ=
ic<br>
transport was not an option for him, even by Access-a-bus. Unless<br>
Canadians live in a large city I think we do need our cars and thus our<br>
roads, though I have a lot of sympathy for your good reasons for doing<br>
away with highways.<br>
<br>
Lois Codling<br>
L. Sackville<br>
<br>
On 3/29/2020 12:26 PM, David Webster wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Hi Burkhard & All,<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"> You open the door to some impor=
tant topics.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"> While the rapid response to Cov=
id-19, in most jurisdictions, shows<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">that governments can respond to an 'imminent hang=
ing', Covid-19 is a<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Sunday School picnic compared to the consequences=
of run-away Climate<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Change. It has been obvious for at least 60 years=
that Climate Change<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">was the only real problem the world faces but act=
ion has been limited<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">to vague promises to meet targets by some future =
date. Many European<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">countries have acted responsibly but on a per cap=
ita basis Canada and<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">the USA are slackers.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"> And the solution is self eviden=
t; replace 90% of auto and truck<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">traffic with efficient public transit and rail re=
spectively. The big<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">question is--- How does one convince a corruption=
of cheerful liars,<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">AKA politicians, to act responsibly ?<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"> And this high volume of vehicle=
traffic, in addition to the<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">release of fossil carbon, has a huge impact on th=
e natural world;<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">directly and indirectly. Brooklyn St. in Kentvill=
e runs West from<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Cornwallis St. along the North side of the Cornwa=
llis meadow. I often<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">have walked along this road over some 50 years. R=
oad kill Painted<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Turtle were fairly common there shortly west of t=
he Hospital road<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">until about 2000 (guess); none since. So I =
have concluded that the<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">local PT colony has been exterminated.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"> Small man-made barriers are hug=
e for small animals. A highway cut<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">in that same area has generated a Toad barrier. T=
hey can not get where<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">they think they must go. Some decades ago a grade=
r had generated a<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">ridge of gravel, about a foot high, in the middle=
of the rail trail. I<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">watched a fair sized Garter Snake attempting to c=
ross that; not possible.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"> If small changes have such impa=
cts one should contemplate the<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">enormous impact of the 100 series highways which =
have fragmented the<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">landscape into untold numbers of isolated shards.=
<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"> The typical back country road &=
nbsp;had no ditches to speak of until<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">urban sprawl forced 'improvements', so in spring =
there was a necklace<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">of isolated pools each with numerous tadpoles; wh=
ich in turn became<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">frogs or toads. Back about 1942-50 when I helped =
mow swails, which<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">were too wet for the horse, with a scythe the swa=
ils were alive with<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">frogs. Plop, plop, plop with every scythe swing, =
and the same when you<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">carried a fork load of mowed sedges to dry ground=
. One year in<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">college, ca 1952, the usual frogs for dissection =
were unavailable so<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">the proff. asked me to collect 25. No sweat. It w=
ould be difficult<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">now. Fred somebody, at Acadia, did a survey of am=
phibia populations<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">but refused to allow historical comments; how use=
ful.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"> We had a cottage at Sunken Lake=
from 1970 to 1991. Initially, the<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">wave lapped beach gravel swarmed with penny toads=
in season and at<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">night the cottage wall was covered with insects. =
Long before 1991 the<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">toads were gone and by 1991 one insect on the wal=
l was an event. The<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">public road, where there was never more then slow=
and light traffic,<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">fresh road kill snakes and Dragon flies were pred=
ictable.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"> So I am absolutely sure that mo=
tor vehicle traffic is very<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">destructive of the natural world, both in the sho=
rt and long term. The<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">solution must be to somehow renew public transit =
so it displaces the<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">lure of wall to wall motor vehicles.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"> Yt, DW, Kentville<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On 3/29/2020 10:15 AM, Burkhard Plache wrote:<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Given the current slowdown of life,<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">vehicle traffic has been reduced significantly.<b=
r>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">It is likely to early to say if this has an impac=
t<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">on vehicles killing wildlife. Also, many birds<br=
>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">have not arrived yet, turtles have not emerged ye=
t, ...<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Simply curious,<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">Burkhard<br>
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