[NatureNS] peculiar arthropod capture

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I have used only one SD card in the trail cam and had the correct date ente=
red when the cam went into operation in Nov 2019. The date stamp for the bu=
g video is January 4, 5:42am. I have a second video (me coming for the came=
ra) taken roughly 2 hrs later under natural light confirming there was no s=
now. I checked online and the temerature was between 2 and 4 C, so above fr=
eezing. The overwintering moth sounds suitable. We have plenty of gardens a=
nd construction around the deck and the imagery is explained by Yanega's id=
ea. I sent him a  message asking if he will review the video. News to follo=
w i hope.

Cheers,

Andy Stadnyk

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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha=
lf of Stephen Shaw <srshaw@Dal.Ca>
Sent: April 28, 2020 6:31 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] peculiar arthropod capture

While a UFO sighting might be nicer, this sounds a more likely explanation.=
  But what winged or jumping insects are about in January other than tiny a=
nd rare "snow fleas=94?  An alien male winter moth if still around by then =
doesn=92t fly rapidly like that.  Two ideas: was it a recording (data loggi=
ng) camera that could have captured this way back in mid-summer but the mem=
ory of which was only downloaded months later?=97 do its images have date/t=
ime signatures? Or could it have been an overwintering moth that emerged fr=
om its chrysalis prematurely from soil in a planter in the heated indoors (=
sometimes happens, noctuid moths), and that someone had just booted outside=
?  It would then have a minute or so to fly around before it cooled down ra=
pidly to ambient temperature and became immobilized.

On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:19 PM, K MacLeod <ktmac13@gmail.com<mailto:ktmac13@gm=
ail.com>> wrote:

http://www.skepdic.com/rods.html

It is an optical illusion according to this website:

 But, according to Doug Yanega of the Entomology Department at the Universi=
ty of California at Riverside and a member of the Straight Dope Science Adv=
isory Board, rods are

a videographic artifact based on the frame capture rate of the videocam ver=
sus the wingbeat frequency of the insects. Essentially what you see is seve=
ral wingbeat cycles of the insect on each frame of the video, creating the =
illusion of a "rod" with bulges along its length. The blurred body of the i=
nsect as it moves forward forms the "rod," and the oscillation of the wings=
 up and down form the bulges. Anyone with a video camera can duplicate the =
effect, if you shoot enough footage of flying insects from the right distan=
ce.*<http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mrodhoax.html>

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 3:12 PM Andrew Stadnyk <Andrew.Stadnyk@dal.ca<mailt=
o:Andrew.Stadnyk@dal.ca>> wrote:
Certainly not a video scam from me, right-off the trail cam. There is shape=
 to it, just pause the video and catch it at near the apex. In terms of my =
video editing capabilities, heck it took me weeks to figure out how to get =
it on Twitter (cost free, that is, I was sharing 92Mb through Google before=
). That's why it was so striking. So UFO it is until we know more but I hav=
en't seen a repeat.

Andy Stadnyk

________________________________
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> <=
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>> on beh=
alf of Stephen Shaw <srshaw@Dal.Ca<mailto:srshaw@Dal.Ca>>
Sent: April 28, 2020 2:54 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> <naturens@chebu=
cto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Re: peculiar arthropod capture

Agreed.  But it=92s not the obvious LED pointer trail that cats love, thoug=
h: that wouldn=92t leave a trace in plain air and doesn=92t leave one on th=
e ground in the video.  At two points the bouncing image changes direction =
very rapidly in an un-animal-like manner, so it does appear to be human-mad=
e.  First guess is that somebody with video skills has superimposed another=
 image on top of the cat pic, and that it=92s a scam.  Second guess is that=
 it=92s a miniature UFO.

On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:43 AM, David Webster <dwebster@glinx.com<mailto:dwebs=
ter@glinx.com>> wrote:

Dear Andrew and All,
I had a look at this. That must be some rotating light source nearby or som=
e kid having fun. Not a leaping arthropod.
yt, DW, Kentville.
On 4/28/2020 8:16 AM, Andrew Stadnyk wrote:
Indirectly related to the cats in our yard, in January I happened to captur=
e video of a very peculiar arthropod (jumping Centipede?) bouncing in the d=
ark in front of a stray cat, from our deck. The cat notices it but likely c=
an't see it. I am very interested in more information about the arthropod. =
Fascinating that it is bouncing and in January. Any ideas are appreciated.

The video is available on Twitter, using the link. You don't have to be sub=
scriber to Twitter to see it.

https://twitter.com/I_stop_forbirds/status/1254015664790147072

Andy Stadnyk
Lower Sackville






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I have used only one SD card in the trail cam and had the correct date ente=
red when the cam went into operation in Nov 2019. The date stamp for the bu=
g video is January 4, 5:42am. I have a second video (me coming for the came=
ra) taken roughly 2 hrs later under
 natural light confirming there was no snow. I checked online and the temer=
ature was between 2 and 4 C, so above freezing. The overwintering moth soun=
ds suitable. We have plenty of gardens and construction around the deck and=
 the imagery is explained by Yanega's
 idea. I sent him a&nbsp; message asking if he will review the video. News =
to follow i hope.</div>
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Andy Stadnyk</div>
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to.ns.ca &lt;naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca&gt; on behalf of Stephen Shaw &l=
t;srshaw@Dal.Ca&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> April 28, 2020 6:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca &lt;naturens@chebucto.ns.ca&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] peculiar arthropod capture</font>
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<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">While a UFO sighting might be nicer, th=
is sounds a more likely explanation. &nbsp;But what winged or jumping insec=
ts are about in January other than tiny and rare &quot;snow fleas=94? &nbsp=
;An alien male winter moth if still around by then
 doesn=92t fly rapidly like that. &nbsp;Two ideas: was it a recording (data=
 logging) camera that could have captured this way back in mid-summer but t=
he memory of which was only downloaded months later?=97 do its images have =
date/time signatures? Or could it have been
 an overwintering moth that emerged from its chrysalis prematurely from soi=
l in a planter in the heated indoors (sometimes happens, noctuid moths), an=
d that someone had just booted outside? &nbsp;It would then have a minute o=
r so to fly around before it cooled down
 rapidly to ambient temperature and became immobilized. &nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
<br>
<div>
<div>On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:19 PM, K MacLeod &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ktmac13@g=
mail.com">ktmac13@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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<div><a href=3D"http://www.skepdic.com/rods.html">http://www.skepdic.com/ro=
ds.html</a>&nbsp;</div>
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<div dir=3D"auto">It is an optical illusion according to this website:</div=
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<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial; color:rgb(51,51,51)">&n=
bsp;But, according to Doug Yanega of the Entomology Department at the Unive=
rsity of California at Riverside and a member of the Straight Dope Science =
Advisory Board, rods are&nbsp;</span></div>
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:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; width:376px; color:rgb(51,51,51)">
<p style=3D"margin:20px 0px; padding:0px"><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"3" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px; padding:0px">a videographic artifact based on the frame=
 capture rate of the videocam versus the wingbeat frequency of the insects.=
 Essentially what you see is several wingbeat
 cycles of the insect on each frame of the video, creating the illusion of =
a &quot;rod&quot; with bulges along its length. The blurred body of the ins=
ect as it moves forward forms the &quot;rod,&quot; and the oscillation of t=
he wings up and down form the bulges. Anyone with a
 video camera can duplicate the effect, if you shoot enough footage of flyi=
ng insects from the right distance.<font color=3D"#990000" style=3D"margin:=
0px; padding:0px"><a href=3D"http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mrodhoax.h=
tml" style=3D"margin:0px; padding:0px; color:rgb(51,153,204); text-decorati=
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 3:12 PM And=
rew Stadnyk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Andrew.Stadnyk@dal.ca">Andrew.Stadnyk@dal=
.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p=
t">Certainly not a video scam from me, right-off the trail cam. There is sh=
ape to it, just pause the video and catch it at near the apex. In terms of =
my video editing capabilities, heck
 it took me weeks to figure out how to get it on Twitter (cost free, that i=
s, I was sharing 92Mb through Google before). That's why it was so striking=
. So UFO it is until we know more but I haven't seen a repeat.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p=
t"><br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p=
t">Andy Stadnyk</div>
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t"><br>
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ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a>&gt; on behalf of St=
ephen Shaw &lt;srshaw@Dal.Ca&gt;<br>
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urens@chebucto.ns.ca</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" tar=
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] Re: peculiar arthropod capture</font>
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<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Agreed.&nbsp; But it=92s not the obviou=
s LED pointer trail that cats love, though: that wouldn=92t leave a trace i=
n plain air and doesn=92t leave one on the ground in the video.&nbsp; At tw=
o points the bouncing image changes direction very
 rapidly in an un-animal-like manner, so it does appear to be human-made.&n=
bsp; First guess is that somebody with video skills has superimposed anothe=
r image on top of the cat pic, and that it=92s a scam.&nbsp; Second guess i=
s that it=92s a miniature UFO. &nbsp;
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<div>On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:43 AM, David Webster &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dwebs=
ter@glinx.com" target=3D"_blank">dwebster@glinx.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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<div style=3D"margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">Dear Andrew and All,<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">I had a look at this. That=
 must be some rotating light source nearby or some kid having fun. Not a le=
aping arthropod.</div>
<div style=3D"margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px">yt, DW, Kentville.<br>
</div>
<div>On 4/28/2020 8:16 AM, Andrew Stadnyk wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p=
t">Indirectly related to the cats in our yard, in January I happened to cap=
ture video of a very peculiar arthropod (jumping Centipede?) bouncing in th=
e dark in front of a stray cat, from
 our deck. The cat notices it but likely can't see it. I am very interested=
 in more information about the arthropod. Fascinating that it is bouncing a=
nd in January. Any ideas are appreciated.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p=
t"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p=
t">The video is available on Twitter, using the link. You don't have to be =
subscriber to Twitter to see it.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p=
t"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p=
t"><a href=3D"https://twitter.com/I_stop_forbirds/status/125401566479014707=
2" target=3D"_blank">https://twitter.com/I_stop_forbirds/status/12540156647=
90147072</a><br>
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t">Andy Stadnyk</div>
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t">Lower Sackville</div>
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