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Hi, Devin-
I agree, it looks pretty fresh, apart from the notch in the wing. I
usually look at the wing fringes when considering age - it's easy to see
if they have worn off.
A Canadian government
<https://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species/Vanessa-virginiensis>publication
<https://cbif.gc.ca/eng/species-bank/butterflies-of-canada/american-lady/?id=1370403265531>
says that "it is not clear if this species is capable of overwintering
in Canada".
Another source
<https://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species/Vanessa-virginiensis> says
that there are three to four broods in the US from May to November (all
year in the deep south) and that adults hibernate.
So it's all inconclusive. It seems too early to be a recently-emerged
migrant, and yet in too good condition to be an over-wintering adult. I
guess it will just have to remain one of those intriguing mysteries.
Thanks
--- Peter Payzant
On 2020-04-28 10:36 PM, Devin Johnstone wrote:
> Hi Peter - the first individual was difficult to tell as I couldn't
> get a photo... but the second one I did get a number of photos and the
> observation is on both eButterfly and iNat if you were interested in
> taking a look:
>
> iNaturalist - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/43794759
>
> eButterfly (I'd say they are still working out bugs in the new
> roll-out) -
> http://www.e-butterfly.org/ebapp/en/checklists/view/98150?observation_id=400092
>
> My thought is that it looks pretty fresh - with only some apparent
> damage to the left hindwing... so I'd say a recent emergence - but
> would love to hear your opinion as well!
>
> cheers,
>
> Devin J.
>
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> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca>
> on behalf of Peter Payzant <peter@payzant.net>
> *Sent:* April 27, 2020 6:16 PM
> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
> *Subject:* Re: [NatureNS] butterflies in Kentville
> Hi, Devin-
>
> What kind of condition were the American Ladys in? Would you say that
> they had overwintered (and thus recently emerged and fresh) or had
> migrated in (and perhaps somewhat worn)?
>
> Thanks for these observations!
>
> --- Peter Payzant
>
>
> On 2020-04-27 5:08 PM, Devin Johnstone wrote:
>>
>> I also got some lovely photos of an American Lady yesterday as well.
>>
>> I observed another American Lady on Tuesday of last week (April 21),
>> a new "earliest date" for me that species as well. Unfortunately, I
>> wasnt able to get a photo of that one.
>
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Hi, Devin-<br>
<br>
I agree, it looks pretty fresh, apart from the notch in the wing. I
usually look at the wing fringes when considering age - it's easy to
see if they have worn off.<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species/Vanessa-virginiensis">A
Canadian government </a><a
href="https://cbif.gc.ca/eng/species-bank/butterflies-of-canada/american-lady/?id=1370403265531">publication</a>
says that "it is not clear if this species is capable of
overwintering in Canada".<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species/Vanessa-virginiensis">Another
source</a> says that there are three to four broods in the US from
May to November (all year in the deep south) and that adults
hibernate. <br>
<br>
So it's all inconclusive. It seems too early to be a
recently-emerged migrant, and yet in too good condition to be an
over-wintering adult. I guess it will just have to remain one of
those intriguing mysteries.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
--- Peter Payzant<br>
<br>
<br>
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<span>Hi Peter - the first individual was difficult to tell as I
couldn't get a photo... but the second one I did get a number
of photos and the observation is on both eButterfly and iNat
if you were interested in taking a look:</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<span><br>
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<span>iNaturalist - <a id="LPNoLP327520"
href="https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/43794759"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/43794759</a></span></div>
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<span>eButterfly (I'd say they are still working out bugs in the
new roll-out) - <a id="LPlnk391139"
href="http://www.e-butterfly.org/ebapp/en/checklists/view/98150?observation_id=400092"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.e-butterfly.org/ebapp/en/checklists/view/98150?observation_id=400092</a></span></div>
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<span>My thought is that it looks pretty fresh - with only some
apparent damage to the left hindwing... so I'd say a recent
emergence - but would love to hear your opinion as well!</span></div>