[NatureNS] butterflies in Kentville

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From: Devin Johnstone <devjohnstone@hotmail.com>
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A number of species observed in the warmth of Sunday afternoon:

9 Mustard White (FOY)
2 Eastern Pine Elfin (FOY)
2 American Lady
1 Mourning Cloak (FOY)
1 Eastern Comma (FOY)

Still haven't seen a Spring Azure yet, but I see on iNaturalist and eButter=
fly that others have.

We also came home with a number of ticks (both species).

Devin J.
Kentville, NS

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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha=
lf of Peter Payzant <peter@payzant.net>
Sent: April 29, 2020 12:29 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] butterflies in Kentville

Hi, Devin-

I agree, it looks pretty fresh, apart from the notch in the wing. I usually=
 look at the wing fringes when considering age - it's easy to see if they h=
ave worn off.

A Canadian government <https://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species/Vanessa-=
virginiensis> publication<https://cbif.gc.ca/eng/species-bank/butterflies-o=
f-canada/american-lady/?id=3D1370403265531> says that "it is not clear if t=
his species is capable of overwintering in Canada".

Another source<https://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species/Vanessa-virginie=
nsis> says that there are three to four broods in the US from May to Novemb=
er (all year in the deep south) and that adults hibernate.

So it's all inconclusive. It seems too early to be a recently-emerged migra=
nt, and yet in too good condition to be an over-wintering adult. I guess it=
 will just have to remain one of those intriguing mysteries.

Thanks

--- Peter Payzant


On 2020-04-28 10:36 PM, Devin Johnstone wrote:
Hi Peter - the first individual was difficult to tell as I couldn't get a p=
hoto... but the second one I did get a number of photos and the observation=
 is on both eButterfly and iNat if you were interested in taking a look:

iNaturalist - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/43794759

eButterfly (I'd say they are still working out bugs in the new roll-out) - =
http://www.e-butterfly.org/ebapp/en/checklists/view/98150?observation_id=3D=
400092

My thought is that it looks pretty fresh - with only some apparent damage t=
o the left hindwing... so I'd say a recent emergence - but would love to he=
ar your opinion as well!

cheers,

Devin J.

________________________________
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> <=
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca><mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beh=
alf of Peter Payzant <peter@payzant.net><mailto:peter@payzant.net>
Sent: April 27, 2020 6:16 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> <naturens@chebu=
cto.ns.ca><mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] butterflies in Kentville

Hi, Devin-

What kind of condition were the American Ladys in? Would you say that they =
had overwintered (and thus recently emerged and fresh) or had migrated in (=
and perhaps somewhat worn)?

Thanks for these observations!

--- Peter Payzant


On 2020-04-27 5:08 PM, Devin Johnstone wrote:

I also got some lovely photos of an American Lady yesterday as well.

I observed another American Lady on Tuesday of last week (April 21), a new =
"earliest date" for me that species as well.  Unfortunately, I wasnt able t=
o get a photo of that one.



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<span>A number of species observed in the warmth of Sunday afternoon:</span=
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f; font-size: 12pt;">
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<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 12pt;">
<span>9 Mustard White (FOY)</span></div>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 12pt;">
<span>2 Eastern Pine Elfin (FOY)</span></div>
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f; font-size: 12pt;">
<span>2 American Lady</span></div>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 12pt;">
<span>1 Mourning Cloak (FOY)</span></div>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 12pt;">
<span>1 Eastern Comma (FOY)</span></div>
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f; font-size: 12pt;">
<span><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 12pt;">
<span>Still haven't seen a Spring Azure yet, but I see on iNaturalist and e=
Butterfly that others have.</span></div>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 12pt;">
<span><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 12pt;">
<span>We also came home with a number of ticks (both species).</span></div>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri,Helvetica,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 12pt;">
<span><br>
</span></div>
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f; font-size: 12pt;">
<span>Devin J.</span></div>
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f; font-size: 12pt;">
<span>Kentville, NS</span></div>
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ri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> naturens-owner@chebuc=
to.ns.ca &lt;naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca&gt; on behalf of Peter Payzant &=
lt;peter@payzant.net&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> April 29, 2020 12:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca &lt;naturens@chebucto.ns.ca&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] butterflies in Kentville</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>Hi, Devin-<br>
<br>
I agree, it looks pretty fresh, apart from the notch in the wing. I usually=
 look at the wing fringes when considering age - it's easy to see if they h=
ave worn off.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species/Vanessa-virginiensis=
">A Canadian government
</a><a href=3D"https://cbif.gc.ca/eng/species-bank/butterflies-of-canada/am=
erican-lady/?id=3D1370403265531">publication</a> says that &quot;it is not =
clear if this species is capable of overwintering in Canada&quot;.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species/Vanessa-virginiensis=
">Another source</a> says that there are three to four broods in the US fro=
m May to November (all year in the deep south) and that adults hibernate.
<br>
<br>
So it's all inconclusive. It seems too early to be a recently-emerged migra=
nt, and yet in too good condition to be an over-wintering adult. I guess it=
 will just have to remain one of those intriguing mysteries.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
--- Peter Payzant<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-04-28 10:36 PM, Devin Johnstone wr=
ote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<span>Hi Peter - the first individual was difficult to tell as I couldn't g=
et a photo... but the second one I did get a number of photos and the obser=
vation is on both eButterfly and iNat if you were interested in taking a lo=
ok:</span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<span><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<span>iNaturalist -&nbsp;<a id=3D"LPNoLP327520" href=3D"https://www.inatura=
list.org/observations/43794759">https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/43=
794759</a></span></div>
<br>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<span>eButterfly (I'd say they are still working out bugs in the new roll-o=
ut) -&nbsp;<a id=3D"LPlnk391139" href=3D"http://www.e-butterfly.org/ebapp/e=
n/checklists/view/98150?observation_id=3D400092">http://www.e-butterfly.org=
/ebapp/en/checklists/view/98150?observation_id=3D400092</a></span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<span><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<span>My thought is that it looks pretty fresh - with only some apparent da=
mage to the left hindwing... so I'd say a recent emergence - but would love=
 to hear your opinion as well!</span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<span><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<span>cheers,</span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<span><br>
Devin J.<br>
</span></div>
<div>
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ont-size:12pt">
<br>
</div>
<hr tabindex=3D"-1" style=3D"display:inline-block; width:98%">
<div id=3D"x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Cal=
ibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b>
<a class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebu=
cto.ns.ca">
naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> <a class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=
=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca">
&lt;naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca&gt;</a> on behalf of Peter Payzant <a cla=
ss=3D"x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:peter@payzant.net">
&lt;peter@payzant.net&gt;</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> April 27, 2020 6:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:naturens@=
chebucto.ns.ca">
naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a> <a class=3D"x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"ma=
ilto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">
&lt;naturens@chebucto.ns.ca&gt;</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] butterflies in Kentville</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>Hi, Devin-<br>
<br>
What kind of condition were the American Ladys in? Would you say that they =
had overwintered (and thus recently emerged and fresh) or had migrated in (=
and perhaps somewhat worn)?<br>
<br>
Thanks for these observations!<br>
<br>
--- Peter Payzant<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_x_moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-04-27 5:08 PM, Devin Johnstone w=
rote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<span><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<span>I also got some lovely photos of an American Lady yesterday as well.<=
/span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<span><br>
</span></div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0); font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; f=
ont-size:12pt">
<span>I observed another American Lady on Tuesday of last week (April 21), =
a new &quot;earliest date&quot; for me that species as well.&nbsp; Unfortun=
ately, I wasnt able to get a photo of that one.</span><br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
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</blockquote>
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