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In the Butterflies of Ontario, it is stated (about American Ladies) "do not=
normally overwinter in Ontario". So one would presume that some do.
Angus
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca> on beha=
lf of Peter Payzant <peter@payzant.net>
Sent: April 29, 2020 12:59 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] butterflies in Kentville
Hi, Devin-
I agree, it looks pretty fresh, apart from the notch in the wing. I usually=
look at the wing fringes when considering age - it's easy to see if they h=
ave worn off.
A Canadian government <https://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species/Vanessa-=
virginiensis> publication<https://cbif.gc.ca/eng/species-bank/butterflies-o=
f-canada/american-lady/?id=3D1370403265531> says that "it is not clear if t=
his species is capable of overwintering in Canada".
Another source<https://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species/Vanessa-virginie=
nsis> says that there are three to four broods in the US from May to Novemb=
er (all year in the deep south) and that adults hibernate.
So it's all inconclusive. It seems too early to be a recently-emerged migra=
nt, and yet in too good condition to be an over-wintering adult. I guess it=
will just have to remain one of those intriguing mysteries.
Thanks
--- Peter Payzant
On 2020-04-28 10:36 PM, Devin Johnstone wrote:
Hi Peter - the first individual was difficult to tell as I couldn't get a p=
hoto... but the second one I did get a number of photos and the observation=
is on both eButterfly and iNat if you were interested in taking a look:
iNaturalist - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/43794759
eButterfly (I'd say they are still working out bugs in the new roll-out) - =
http://www.e-butterfly.org/ebapp/en/checklists/view/98150?observation_id=3D=
400092
My thought is that it looks pretty fresh - with only some apparent damage t=
o the left hindwing... so I'd say a recent emergence - but would love to he=
ar your opinion as well!
cheers,
Devin J.
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Subject: Re: [NatureNS] butterflies in Kentville
Hi, Devin-
What kind of condition were the American Ladys in? Would you say that they =
had overwintered (and thus recently emerged and fresh) or had migrated in (=
and perhaps somewhat worn)?
Thanks for these observations!
--- Peter Payzant
On 2020-04-27 5:08 PM, Devin Johnstone wrote:
I also got some lovely photos of an American Lady yesterday as well.
I observed another American Lady on Tuesday of last week (April 21), a new =
"earliest date" for me that species as well. Unfortunately, I wasnt able t=
o get a photo of that one.
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<div>Hi, Devin-<br>
<br>
I agree, it looks pretty fresh, apart from the notch in the wing. I usually=
look at the wing fringes when considering age - it's easy to see if they h=
ave worn off.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species/Vanessa-virginiensis=
">A Canadian government
</a><a href=3D"https://cbif.gc.ca/eng/species-bank/butterflies-of-canada/am=
erican-lady/?id=3D1370403265531">publication</a> says that "it is not =
clear if this species is capable of overwintering in Canada".<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.butterfliesandmoths.org/species/Vanessa-virginiensis=
">Another source</a> says that there are three to four broods in the US fro=
m May to November (all year in the deep south) and that adults hibernate.
<br>
<br>
So it's all inconclusive. It seems too early to be a recently-emerged migra=
nt, and yet in too good condition to be an over-wintering adult. I guess it=
will just have to remain one of those intriguing mysteries.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
--- Peter Payzant<br>
<br>
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