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Thanks all for the useful information. Much appreciated!
*Dave in Curry's Corner*
David Simpson
(902) 580 8007
david.sonsimp@gmail.com
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:58 AM rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca <
rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Thanks for the info Lance
> I might add a lot were planted around cottages
> so they can be expected to turn up in strange areas.
> There is a nice one on Peter Veniottes Stillwater. A big tree
> I suspect an Ulmus Americana.
> Getting some seeds is a good reason for a canoe trip
> to visit it and you never know might be a fish wanting a fly nearby!
> Enjoy the summer
> Paul
>
>
> On June 26, 2020 at 10:24 AM Lance Laviolette <corvuscorax@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
>
>
> From my old Roland and Smith, the two species listed are the native
> American Elm *Ulmus americana* and the introduced Scotch Elm *Ulmus
> glabra. *The latter is described as very common in villages and towns
> where it was planted as an ornamental. In =E2=80=98Trees of Nova Scotia=
=E2=80=99 by Gary
> Saunders there are listed two other introduced species. The English Elm *=
Ulmus
> procera* and the Siberian Elm *Ulmus pumila.* I expect if you have a
> rural property you most likely have *U. americana *while in urban areas
> you=E2=80=99ll have to use leaves and seeds to determine the species.
>
>
>
> Regarding the effect of Dutch Elm disease on American Elm, as you have
> seen, it has not eliminated the species but has reduced what used to be o=
ne
> of the largest trees in eastern Canada to a tree that rarely gets larger
> than 8=E2=80=9D DBH. Fortunately they produce seeds for a some years prio=
r to their
> demise and these seeds propagate easily in the correct habitat. I now
> consider American Elm to be a =E2=80=98small=E2=80=99 tree here on my far=
m.
>
>
>
> If you wish to propagate the seeds yourself here is the method for elms
> taken from =E2=80=98Propagation of Trees, Shrubs and Conifers=E2=80=99 by=
Wilfrid and Sheat:
>
> =E2=80=9CThe seeds should be gathered and sown as soon as ripe. Sow in ro=
ws in
> open beds and cover to a depth of 3/8 inches. Some of the species germina=
te
> immediately, though occasionally some will remain dormant until the
> following season. Seedlings should remain in the seed bed for a full year
> after germination.=E2=80=9D
>
>
>
> Good luck,
>
>
>
> Lance
>
>
>
>
>
> Lance Laviolette
>
> Glen Robertson, Ontario
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> *From:* naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:
> naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] *On Behalf Of *David Simpson
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:27 AM
> *To:* naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> *Subject:* [NatureNS] Elms in NS
>
>
>
> There are plenty of elm trees in the Windsor area. I have a few small (~8=
"
> DBH) on my small property. There are a number of large specimens in town.
>
>
>
> Can anyone comment on the species they likely would be? The history of
> Dutch Elm here is fuzzy for me. Internet sources state elms were often
> planted here since ca.1800s. Was European White Elm, *Ulmus laivis* widel=
y
> planted in towns, or are these likely the native *Ulmus americana*? It
> seems differentiating the species isn't straightforward. Whatever the
> species, they are putting out seed now. Are there any concerns or
> guidelines for propagating elms now, in the age of dutch elm disease?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> *Dave in Curry's Corner *
>
>
>
> David Simpson
>
> (902) 580 8007
>
> david.sonsimp@gmail.com
>
>
>
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ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 26, 2=
020 at 10:58 AM <a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca">rita.paul@ns.s=
ympatico.ca</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:rita.paul@ns.sympatico.ca">rita.paul@=
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<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Thanks for the info Lance</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">I might add a lot were planted around cot=
tages</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">so they can be expected to turn up in str=
ange areas.</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">There is a nice one on Peter Veniottes St=
illwater. A big tree</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">I suspect an=C2=A0<span>Ulmus Americana</=
span>.</span>
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<div>
<span style=3D"font-size:medium">Getting some seeds is a good reason for=
a canoe trip</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size:medium">to visit it and you never know might be=
a fish wanting a fly nearby!</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size:medium">Enjoy the summer</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size:medium">Paul</span>
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<span style=3D"font-size:medium"></span>On June 26, 2020 at 10:24 AM Lan=
ce Laviolette <<a href=3D"mailto:corvuscorax@sympatico.ca" target=3D"_bl=
ank">corvuscorax@sympatico.ca</a>> wrote:
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i,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi Dave,</span></p>=20
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i,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></p>=20
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i,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">From my old Roland and Smith, the two sp=
ecies listed are the native American Elm <em>Ulmus americana</em> and the i=
ntroduced Scotch Elm <em>Ulmus glabra. </em>The latter is described as very=
common in villages and towns where it was planted as an ornamental. In =E2=
=80=98Trees of Nova Scotia=E2=80=99 by Gary Saunders there are listed two o=
ther introduced species. The English Elm <em>Ulmus procera</em> and the Sib=
erian Elm <em>Ulmus pumila.</em> I expect if you have a rural property you =
most likely have <em>U. americana </em>while in urban areas you=E2=80=99ll =
have to use leaves and seeds to determine the species.</span></p>=20
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i,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></p>=20
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i,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Regarding the effect of Dutch Elm diseas=
e on American Elm, as you have seen, it has not eliminated the species but =
has reduced what used to be one of the largest trees in eastern Canada to a=
tree that rarely gets larger than 8=E2=80=9D DBH. Fortunately they produce=
seeds for a some years prior to their demise and these seeds propagate eas=
ily in the correct habitat. I now consider American Elm to be a =E2=80=98sm=
all=E2=80=99 tree here on my farm.</span></p>=20
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i,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibr=
i,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">If you wish to propagate the seeds yours=
elf here is the method for elms taken from =E2=80=98Propagation of Trees, S=
hrubs and Conifers=E2=80=99 by Wilfrid and Sheat:</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibr=
i,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=E2=80=9CThe seeds should be gathered an=
d sown as soon as ripe. Sow in rows in open beds and cover to a depth of 3/=
8 inches. Some of the species germinate immediately, though occasionally so=
me will remain dormant until the following season. Seedlings should remain =
in the seed bed for a full year after germination.=E2=80=9D</span></p>=20
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i,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></p>=20
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i,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Good luck,</span></p>=20
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Arial Black",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Lance Laviolette</span><=
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Arial Black",sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Glen Robertson, Ontario<=
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ly:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> <a href=3D"mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.=
ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"=
mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens-owner@cheb=
ucto.ns.ca</a>] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>David Simpson<br><strong>Sent=
:</strong> Thursday, June 25, 2020 11:27 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> <a href=
=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank">naturens@chebucto.ns.=
ca</a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> [NatureNS] Elms in NS</span></p>=20
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rea. I have a few small (~8" DBH) on my small property. There are a nu=
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ces state elms were often planted here since ca.1800s. Was European White E=
lm, <em>Ulmus laivis</em>=C2=A0widely planted in towns, or are these likely=
the native <em>Ulmus americana</em>? It seems differentiating the species =
isn't straightforward. Whatever the species, they are putting out seed =
now. Are there any concerns or guidelines for propagating elms now, in the =
age of dutch elm disease?</p>=20
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