[NatureNS] feathers jurisdiction & identification.

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Actually, I believe the jurisdiction over migratory and other birds  
is rather more complicated than what Kathleen said below.  There are  
4 species of non-protected species (pigeon, house sparrow, starling,  
crow).  The vast majority of birds are legally "migratory" birds re  
protection under Migratory Birds Convention Act?  But all raptors  
(eagles, hawks, falcons, accipiters, buteos, osprey, harrier, kites,  
and owls too) plus cormorants and ?? are under provincial  
jurisdiction, and thus are protected differently.  Finally, regarding  
laws regarding feathers, eagles are quite special because of their  
usefulness re ethnic lore and headdresses etc.  Thus I believe that  
the province has some sort of arrangement with the Mi'kmaq nation so  
that they can legally access especially tail and wing feathers of  
bald eagles (and golden eagles, too?).

Cheers from Jim in Wolfville

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> From: "Paul S. Boyer" <psboyer@eastlink.ca>
> Date: October 16, 2010 12:22:19 PM ADT
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Feather identification.
> Reply-To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>
> It is true that, technically, it is forbidden to have any part of  
> the protected migratory birds, which is just about all of them  
> except traditional game birds and invasives (like the House Sparrow  
> and the Starling).  This means that the great feather collection I  
> had as a kid was technically illegal, as was the fine collection of  
> bird skulls I had assembled.  I better not even talk about the  
> eggshells which I picked up around nests.  Fortunately, nothing  
> ever happened to me, because I grew up in simpler and altogether  
> better times.
>
> It is pure stupidity, and an example of how supposedly clever  
> legislators (and, in this case, also diplomats) don't usually  
> comprehend all the repercussions of their actions, when they get  
> into large policy issues.  The human brain (and also the brain of a  
> legislator, which is mostly similar) is usually best suited for  
> simple decisions, on the level of "What should I have for breakfast  
> this morning?"
>
> There may be a way to get a permit for a feather collection.  I  
> would hope so.  In fact, I would like to see people request a  
> permit every time they see a feather.
>
> Technically, if you take a feather to the museum for  
> identification, you should be pulled over on the way and arrested.   
> I suppose that you can take a picture of said feather, though.
>
>
> On 16 Oct 2010, at 11:40 AM, Kathleen MacAulay wrote:
>
>> Hi Terry,
>>
>> Yes, as Marg says, the Migratory Bird Treaty Act makes it illegal  
>> to possess migratory birds or any parts thereof without a permit.  
>> Migratory birds includes shorebirds, songbirds, raptors and other  
>> groups. It is permitted to possess feathers of species which are  
>> legally hunted here, I think.
>>
>> For feather id, if it happens to be a wing feather, the Slater  
>> Museum of Natural History has an online database of wing images  
>> which is quite extensive, which you can see here. There's another  
>> database for flight feathers only from the USFWS, which can be  
>> found here. It's neat because it tries to help you id feathers,  
>> but it doesn't have as many non-game species as the museum.
>>
>> Kathleen MacAulay
>> Milford Station
>>
>> From: Terry Boswell <ta_boz@hotmail.com>
>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
>> Sent: Sat, October 16, 2010 10:26:04 AM
>> Subject: [NatureNS] Feather identification.
>>
>> To all
>>
>> My wife and I get out on the trails regularly and quite often  
>> discover bird feathers. Does anyone know of a good web site to aid  
>> in feather identification? Also, are there any legal issues with  
>> owning / collecting feathers in Canada?
>>
>> Terry Boswell
>> Cork St., Halifax
>>
>>
>>
>


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rather more complicated than what Kathleen said below. &nbsp;There are 4 =
species of non-protected species (pigeon, house sparrow, starling, =
crow). &nbsp;The vast majority of birds are legally "migratory" birds re =
protection under Migratory Birds Convention Act? &nbsp;But all raptors =
(eagles, hawks, falcons, accipiters, buteos, osprey, harrier, kites, and =
owls too) plus cormorants and ?? are under provincial jurisdiction, and =
thus are protected differently. &nbsp;Finally, regarding laws regarding =
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lore and headdresses etc. &nbsp;Thus I believe that the province has =
some sort of arrangement with the Mi'kmaq nation so that they can =
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