[NatureNS] Conservation land from Bowater

From: David & Alison Webster <dwebster@glinx.com>
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Hi Paul & All,                    Jan 7, 2012
    Good news and bad news. Good that the mill jobs are saved and the =
land protected but this increment to the Provincial debt will last much =
longer than either the jobs or protected status of land & NDP votes. =
But, on the other hand, could the government have done otherwise ?=20

     $2,350/ha seems quite steep for land that the company can't break =
even on, especially for land that would have sold for ~$10/ha 60 years =
ago. International Companies are by nature opportunistic and predatory, =
especially in tough times. For example, when Abitibi-Bowater went =
bankrupt recently they voided the value of current shares, issued a new =
batch and resumed business as usual.

     Will the poor overburdened NS taxpayer have to buy this same land =
again in a few years to buy time for a yet smaller mill operation ?=20

    While these industrial giants come & go, traditional logging with =
oxen is profitable and maintains forest integrity (the recent issue of =
Can. Geographic that I can't find; Hiltz in New Ross ?) if one is =
content to work hard for just enough income to scrape by on. Perhaps the =
next $20+ million forestry handout (that we can't afford) should be =
directed to foster truly sustainable primary industry approaches like =
logging by oxen.

Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville


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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Paul MacDonald=20
  To: NatureNS=20
  Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 10:57 AM
  Subject: [NatureNS] Conservation land from Bowater


  Hi All
  The province now has some very nice land and Bowaters has
  some of our very nice money! LOL


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Paul &amp; All,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Good news and bad news. Good that =
the mill=20
jobs are saved and the land protected but this increment to the =
Provincial debt=20
will last much longer than either the jobs or protected status of=20
land&nbsp;&amp; NDP votes. But, on the other hand,&nbsp;could the =
government=20
have done otherwise ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $2,350/ha seems quite steep =
for land=20
that the company can't break even on, especially for land that would =
have sold=20
for ~$10/ha 60 years ago. International Companies are by nature =
opportunistic=20
and predatory, especially in tough times. For example, when =
Abitibi-Bowater went=20
bankrupt recently they voided the value of current shares, issued a new =
batch=20
and resumed business as usual.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;Will the poor overburdened =
NS=20
taxpayer have&nbsp;to buy this same land again in a few years to buy =
time for a=20
yet smaller mill operation ? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; While these industrial giants =
come &amp;=20
go, traditional logging with oxen is profitable and maintains forest=20
integrity&nbsp;(the recent issue of Can. Geographic that I can't find; =
Hiltz in=20
New Ross ?) if one is content&nbsp;to work hard for&nbsp;just enough =
income=20
to&nbsp;scrape by on. Perhaps the next $20+ million forestry =
handout&nbsp;(that=20
we can't afford)&nbsp;should be directed to&nbsp;foster truly =
sustainable=20
primary industry approaches like logging by oxen.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dpaulrita2001@yahoo.com =
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  MacDonald</A> </DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 07, =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NatureNS] =
Conservation land=20
  from Bowater</DIV>
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  <DIV>Hi All</DIV>
  <DIV>The province now has some very nice land and Bowaters has</DIV>
  <DIV>some of our very nice money! LOL</DIV>
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