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I'm inclined to agree, Dave. These large, external, industrial entities
seem to be an addiction to us in this province. Things start out as
mutually beneficial, but eventually it becomes all give on one side and all
take on the other. Sounds as if both NewPage and Resolute should be taken
to the woodshed, but that is beyond our power.
Maybe we need to become a little less welcoming to, and a little more
demanding of such proponents, before they are allowed to operate in Nova
Scotia.
From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]
On Behalf Of David & Alison Webster
Sent: January-07-12 5:11 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Conservation land from Bowater
Hi Paul & All, Jan 7, 2012
Good news and bad news. Good that the mill jobs are saved and the land
protected but this increment to the Provincial debt will last much longer
than either the jobs or protected status of land & NDP votes. But, on the
other hand, could the government have done otherwise ?
$2,350/ha seems quite steep for land that the company can't break even
on, especially for land that would have sold for ~$10/ha 60 years ago.
International Companies are by nature opportunistic and predatory,
especially in tough times. For example, when Abitibi-Bowater went bankrupt
recently they voided the value of current shares, issued a new batch and
resumed business as usual.
Will the poor overburdened NS taxpayer have to buy this same land again
in a few years to buy time for a yet smaller mill operation ?
While these industrial giants come & go, traditional logging with oxen
is profitable and maintains forest integrity (the recent issue of Can.
Geographic that I can't find; Hiltz in New Ross ?) if one is content to work
hard for just enough income to scrape by on. Perhaps the next $20+ million
forestry handout (that we can't afford) should be directed to foster truly
sustainable primary industry approaches like logging by oxen.
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul MacDonald <mailto:paulrita2001@yahoo.com>
To: NatureNS <mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 10:57 AM
Subject: [NatureNS] Conservation land from Bowater
Hi All
The province now has some very nice land and Bowaters has
some of our very nice money! LOL
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