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xed??? :)&nbsp;<br></div><div><br><div>I agree with your point Rick. Althou
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Good advice, Paul, re. shots across the bow. We should encourage people =
to post information of potential interest. The more details the better, =
but insisting on the presence or absence of certain details is =
counter-productive.
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Paul MacDonald
Sent: January-29-13 4:13 PM
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Some of the birds today
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I agree with you James.
Keep rules to a mininum.
If someone wants to post ebirds summaries the delete button
is a handy tool. Not that I delete ebird summaries, I restrict
the use of that button to the village bully.
The number of posts seem to be dropping every year.
A shot across the bow of first time posters will do that,
it has happened quite a few times.
Myself I only post about birds if I see where they do something =
interesting for me.
Have a nice winter
Paul
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--- On Tue, 1/29/13, James Churchill <jameslchurchill@gmail.com> wrote:
From: James Churchill <jameslchurchill@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Some of the birds today
To: "naturens" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Received: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 9:54 AM
I don't know for sure, Rick, but...mixed??? :)=20
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I agree with your point Rick. Although, very respectfully, few list =
members post eBird data currently, so I can't see us being over-run by =
reports. Additionally, much of our NS eBird data is sparse - based on =
the raw eBird data itself. Only a very small proportion of NS bird =
reports make it to eBird - except in the case of a few of those 40 who =
are, admirably (and inspring to me), more devoted eBirders than most of =
us.=20
=20
I agree, Rick, that most people on the list would likely prefer =
summaries. However, I think John raises a good point too that there is =
value in seeing detailed reports too (whether that means full lists or =
just detailed notes), but also that there is value in the list being =
free from too many stipulations on how or what to post - or what is of =
value. For example, some of us might find value in the highlights =
(observations the reporter deemed most interesting) and some might find =
value in being able to see that Common Redpolls were seen for the first =
time this season in 12 towns on the same day.
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If it is more of a technical concern when long checklists are posted =
(for example, long email in the inbox; or hard to extract the =
information of interest) I'd argue there are likely technical solutions =
to those - one of those being considering additional or other =
architecture for our Nova Scotia nature community to report and discuss =
observations, beyond the listserv.=20
=20
On a related note, in a forum-style architecture, the 100+ list members =
who are not interested in this topic - whatsoever - could choose to tune =
out completely by not clicking to open this discussion thread :)
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in the spirit of discussion,
cheers,
James.
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On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Rick Whitman =
<dendroica.caerulescens@gmail.com> wrote:
And if all 40 of us who regularly report on eBird were to cut & paste
every one of our reports and post them on NatureNS the response here
would be .............. ???
Rick Whitman
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:01 AM, James Churchill
<jameslchurchill@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi folks,
>
> I would add a vote that it is valuable and always interesting seeing =
your
> full eBird reports, James - I always scan them.
>
> On another note, I think these kinds of reports provide an important =
link
> between our list and eBird...
>
> cheers,
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:53 AM, John and Nhung =
<nhungjohn@eastlink.ca>
> wrote:
>>
>> To: James and all
>>
>>
>>
>> From: John Sollows
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: January 27/12
>>
>>
>>
>> =E2=80=9CA number of individuals do not like to see every bird seen =
within
>> specific areas, so I will give an abbreviated version of some of the =
birds
>> that I saw today.=E2=80=9D
>>
>> I have a thought about this, James.
>>
>>
>>
>> While the fine details in your counts may not matter to me, =
personally, it
>> does me no harm to breeze through them and the quantitative bits may, =
over
>> the years, have some real value as indicators in changing patterns of
>> abundance, be it seasonal or actual.
>>
>>
>>
>> The fact that you get it out this way helps make sure the information
>> doesn=E2=80=99t get lost, a decade or so down the road.
>>
>>
>>
>> I greatly admire the dedicated detail you put into these reports. =
Please
>> keep it up.
>>
>>
>>
>> More generally, to each his own. I think the level of detail in =
these
>> reports should be up to the reporter. Generally, I think the more =
detail,
>> the better, as per the discretion and time of the reporter.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> James Churchill
> Kentville, Nova Scotia
> Email: jameslchurchill@gmail.com
> Phone (h): (902) 681-2374
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James Churchill
Kentville, Nova Scotia
Email: jameslchurchill@gmail.com
Phone (h): (902) 681-2374
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D'>Good advice, Paul, re. shots across the bow.=C2=A0 We should =
encourage people to post information of potential interest.=C2=A0 The =
more details the better, but insisting on the presence or absence of =
certain details is counter-productive.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] =
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul MacDonald<br><b>Sent:</b> January-29-13 4:13 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[NatureNS] Some of the birds today<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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border=3D0 cellspacing=3D0 cellpadding=3D0><tr><td valign=3Dtop =
style=3D'padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal>I agree with you =
James.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Keep rules to a =
mininum.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>If someone wants =
to post ebirds summaries the delete button<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>is a handy tool. Not that I delete ebird summaries, I =
restrict<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>the use of that =
button to the village bully.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The number of posts seem to be dropping every =
year.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>A shot across the =
bow of first time posters will do that,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>it has happened quite a few =
times.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Myself I only post =
about birds if I see where they do something interesting for =
me.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Have a nice =
winter<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Paul<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br>--- On <b>Tue, 1/29/13, James Churchill <i><<a =
href=3D"mailto:jameslchurchill@gmail.com">jameslchurchill@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>From: James Churchill <<a =
href=3D"mailto:jameslchurchill@gmail.com">jameslchurchill@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;<br>Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Some of the birds today<br>To: =
"naturens" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">naturens@chebucto.ns.ca</a>><b=
r>Received: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 9:54 AM<o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3Dyiv662233067><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I don't know for sure, =
Rick, but...mixed??? :) <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I agree =
with your point Rick. Although, very respectfully, few list members post =
eBird data currently, so I can't see us being over-run by reports. =
Additionally, much of our NS eBird data is sparse - based on the raw =
eBird data itself. Only a very small proportion of NS bird reports make =
it to eBird - except in the case of a few of those 40 who are, admirably =
(and inspring to me), more devoted eBirders than most of =
us. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
agree, Rick, that most people on the list would likely prefer summaries. =
However, I think John raises a good point too that there is value in =
seeing detailed reports too (whether that means full lists or just =
detailed notes), but also that there is value in the list being free =
from too many stipulations on how or what to post - or what is of value. =
For example, some of us might find value in the highlights (observations =
the reporter deemed most interesting) and some might find value in being =
able to see that Common Redpolls were seen for the first time this =
season in 12 towns on the same day.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>If it is more of a technical concern when long =
checklists are posted (for example, long email in the inbox; or hard to =
extract the information of interest) I'd argue there are likely =
technical solutions to those - one of those being considering additional =
or other architecture for our Nova Scotia nature community to report and =
discuss observations, beyond the =
listserv. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On a related note, in a forum-style architecture, the =
100+ list members who are not interested in this topic - whatsoever - =
could choose to tune out completely by not clicking to open this =
discussion thread :)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>in the spirit of =
discussion,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>James.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Rick Whitman <<a =
href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Ddendroica.caerulescens@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">dendroica.caerulescens@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>And if all 40 of us who =
regularly report on eBird were to cut & paste<br>every one of our =
reports and post them on NatureNS the response here<br>would be =
.............. ???<br><br>Rick Whitman<br><br>On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at =
8:01 AM, James Churchill<br><<a =
href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djameslchurchill@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">jameslchurchill@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> hi =
folks,<br>><br>> I would add a vote that it is valuable and always =
interesting seeing your<br>> full eBird reports, James - I always =
scan them.<br>><br>> On another note, I think these kinds of =
reports provide an important link<br>> between our list and =
eBird...<br>><br>> =
cheers,<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> On Sun, =
Jan 27, 2013 at 6:53 AM, John and Nhung <<a =
href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dnhungjohn@eastlink.ca" =
target=3D"_blank">nhungjohn@eastlink.ca</a>><br>> =
wrote:<br>>><br>>> To: James and =
all<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> From: John =
Sollows<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Date: January =
27/12<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> =E2=80=9CA number =
of individuals do not like to see every bird seen within<br>>> =
specific areas, so I will give an abbreviated version of some of the =
birds<br>>> that I saw today.=E2=80=9D<br>>><br>>> I =
have a thought about this, =
James.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> While the fine =
details in your counts may not matter to me, personally, it<br>>> =
does me no harm to breeze through them and the quantitative bits may, =
over<br>>> the years, have some real value as indicators in =
changing patterns of<br>>> abundance, be it seasonal or =
actual.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> The fact that =
you get it out this way helps make sure the information<br>>> =
doesn=E2=80=99t get lost, a decade or so down the =
road.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> I greatly admire =
the dedicated detail you put into these reports. =
Please<br>>> keep it =
up.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> More generally, to =
each his own. I think the level of detail in these<br>>> =
reports should be up to the reporter. Generally, I think the more =
detail,<br>>> the better, as per the discretion and time of the =
reporter.<br>>><br>>><br>><br>><br>><br><span =
style=3D'color:#888888'>><br>> --<br>> James Churchill<br>> =
Kentville, Nova Scotia<br>> Email: <a =
href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djameslchurchill@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">jameslchurchill@gmail.com</a><br>> Phone (h): (902) =
681-2374</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br><br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>-- =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>James Churchill<br>Kentville, Nova =
Scotia<br>Email: <a href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djameslchurchill@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">jameslchurchill@gmail.com</a><br>Phone (h): (902) =
681-2374<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></td></t=
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