[NatureNS] Some of the birds today

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Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:12:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul MacDonald <paulrita2001@yahoo.com>
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I agree with you James.Keep rules to a mininum.If someone wants to post ebi=
rds summaries the delete buttonis a handy tool. Not that I delete ebird sum=
maries, I restrictthe use of that button to the village bully.The number of=
 posts seem to be dropping every year.A shot across the bow of first time p=
osters will do that,it has happened quite a few times.Myself I only post ab=
out birds if I see where they do something interesting for me.Have a nice w=
interPaul

--- On Tue, 1/29/13, James Churchill <jameslchurchill@gmail.com> wrote:

From: James Churchill <jameslchurchill@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Some of the birds today
To: "naturens" <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Received: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 9:54 AM

I don't know for sure, Rick, but...mixed??? :)=C2=A0

I agree with your point Rick. Although, very respectfully, few list members=
 post eBird data currently, so I can't see us being over-run by reports. Ad=
ditionally, much of our NS eBird data is sparse - based on the raw eBird da=
ta itself. Only a very small proportion of NS bird reports make it to eBird=
 - except in the case of a few of those 40 who are, admirably (and inspring=
 to me), more devoted eBirders than most of us.=C2=A0=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
I agree, Rick, that most people on the list would likely prefer summaries. =
However, I think John raises a good point too that there is value in seeing=
 detailed reports too (whether that means full lists or just detailed notes=
), but also that there is value in the list being free from too many stipul=
ations on how or what to post - or what is of value. For example, some of u=
s might find value in the highlights (observations the reporter deemed most=
 interesting) and some might find value in being able to see that Common Re=
dpolls were seen for the first time this season in 12 towns on the same day=
.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
If it is more of a technical concern when long checklists are posted (for e=
xample, long email in the inbox; or hard to extract the information of inte=
rest) I'd argue there are likely technical solutions to those - one of thos=
e being considering additional or other architecture for our Nova Scotia na=
ture community to report and discuss observations, beyond the listserv.=C2=
=A0=0A=0A=0A
On a related note, in a forum-style architecture, the 100+ list members who=
 are not interested in this topic - whatsoever - could choose to tune out c=
ompletely by not clicking to open this discussion thread :)=0A=0A=0A
in the spirit of discussion,cheers,James.



On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Rick Whitman <dendroica.caerulescens@gmail=
.com> wrote:
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAnd if all 40 of us who regularly report on eBird were=
 to cut & paste
=0Aevery one of our reports and post them on NatureNS the response here
=0Awould be .............. ???
=0A
=0ARick Whitman
=0A
=0AOn Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:01 AM, James Churchill
=0A<jameslchurchill@gmail.com> wrote:
=0A> hi folks,
=0A>
=0A> I would add a vote that it is valuable and always interesting seeing y=
our
=0A> full eBird reports, James - I always scan them.
=0A>
=0A> On another note, I think these kinds of reports provide an important l=
ink
=0A> between our list and eBird...
=0A>
=0A> cheers,
=0A>
=0A>
=0A>
=0A>
=0A>
=0A>
=0A> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 6:53 AM, John and Nhung <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca=
>
=0A> wrote:
=0A>>
=0A>> To: =C2=A0 James and all
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>> From: =C2=A0John Sollows
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>> Date: January 27/12
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>> =E2=80=9CA number of individuals do not like to see every bird seen w=
ithin
=0A>> specific areas, so I will give an abbreviated version of some of the =
birds
=0A>> that I saw today.=E2=80=9D
=0A>>
=0A>> I have =C2=A0a thought about this, James.
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>> While the fine details in your counts may not matter to me, personall=
y, it
=0A>> does me no harm to breeze through them and the quantitative bits may,=
 over
=0A>> the years, have some real value as indicators in changing patterns of
=0A>> abundance, be it seasonal or actual.
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>> The fact that you get it out this way helps make sure the information
=0A>> doesn=E2=80=99t get lost, a decade or so down the road.
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>> I greatly admire the dedicated detail you put into these reports. =C2=
=A0Please
=0A>> keep it up.
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>> More generally, to each his own. =C2=A0I think the level of detail in=
 these
=0A>> reports should be up to the reporter. =C2=A0Generally, I think the mo=
re detail,
=0A>> the better, as per the discretion and time of the reporter.
=0A>>
=0A>>
=0A>
=0A>
=0A>
=0A>
=0A> --
=0A> James Churchill
=0A> Kentville, Nova Scotia
=0A> Email: jameslchurchill@gmail.com
=0A> Phone (h): (902) 681-2374
=0A


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James Churchill
Kentville, Nova Scotia
Email: jameslchurchill@gmail.com
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0APhone (h): (902) 681-2374



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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">I agree with you James.<div>Keep rules to a m=
ininum.</div><div>If someone wants to post ebirds summaries the delete butt=
on</div><div>is a handy tool. Not that I delete ebird summaries, I restrict=
</div><div>the use of that button to the village bully.</div><div>The numbe=
r of posts seem to be dropping every year.</div><div>A shot across the bow =
of first time posters will do that,</div><div>it has happened quite a few t=
imes.</div><div>Myself I only post about birds if I see where they do somet=
hing interesting for me.</div><div>Have a nice winter</div><div>Paul</div><=
div><br></div><div><br>--- On <b>Tue, 1/29/13, James Churchill <i>&lt;james=
lchurchill@gmail.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left=
: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>Fro=
m: James Churchill &lt;jameslchurchill@gmail.com&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [Natur=
eNS]
 Some of the birds today<br>To: "naturens" &lt;naturens@chebucto.ns.ca&gt;<=
br>Received: Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 9:54 AM<br><br><div id=3D"yiv662233=
067"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"">I don't know for sure, Rick, but...mi=
xed??? :)&nbsp;<br></div><div><br><div>I agree with your point Rick. Althou