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Hi Darrell,
How common/sparse have Raccoon been in this area over the last 20 =
years ?=20
YT, Dave
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From: darrell@abolitphotos.ca=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
I really do question SSC. There are painted turtles everywhere around =
my area, littlerly hundreds within a few kms, never seen so many in all =
my life. Now wood turtles used to be the most common but are rarely seen =
now, no mention of them on the SSC list.
I would say it would be best to educate on leaving well enough alone =
and to say to child... how would you like it if somebody came and took =
you out of our home and put you into a box elsewhere.
The golden rule truely is golden in teaching all people, not just =
children. Mind you, I would not want to have my legs thrown into a =
frying pan either. Life is a balancing act. You heard of the farmers =
asking for more culling of deer, of course some who don't want the =
killing of anything come out of the woodwork, no balance.
All the best,
Darrell
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:40:58 -0300, Shouty McShoutsalot =
<desolatechair@gmail.com> wrote:
Reading Mr Churchill's original post it was not a Red Eared Slider. =
It was an indigenous Eastern Painted Turtle which is on the SSC =
candidate list of wildlife species that it considers at risk of =
extinction or extirpation nationally. So the question remains - does =
this list condone removing wild animals from their natural habitat at =
the behest of a screaming five year old 'budding naturalist'?
On 24 June 2014 20:23, <darrell@abolitphotos.ca> wrote:
I have a friend in Natural Resourses, he takes children on =
education tours at times.
He was telling me at a certain younger ages the children want to =
know every insect, plant, animal and all about them. Then a year or two =
later they are nothing but a pain to deal with as all they want to do is =
horse around. I can't remember the exact ages but get them when they are =
young is the best bet.
We had a pond behind our house, hours and hours of intertainment, =
some not so happy frogs from it. :~) We fried up some legs one day and =
older brother came in, what are you cooking, frog legs, can I have some, =
sure. Never told him we just but a second batch on and they were totally =
raw, What a laugh we had, still chuckle about it when it crosses my =
mind.
All the best,
Darrell
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:45:46 -0700, M gayle Maclean =
<dashis9@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Perhaps the NS Young Naturalists group & their adult leaders, or =
the NS Museum Of Natural History, might put together a package that =
could be shared with the NS Dept.of Education?
Not sure what age group would be best suited towards, mind you.=20
Am sure there are many on this list, who could advise or =
suggest.=20
Interesting topic, indeed!
Gayle MacLean
Dartmouth
On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 7:17:41 PM, desolatechair =
<desolatechair@gmail.com> wrote:
Budding biologists should learn to observe wild animals in their =
natural habitat, no? Do you really condone this behavior?
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From: David & Alison Webster=20
Date:06-24-2014 6:43 PM (GMT-04:00)=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...=20
Hi John & All, June 24, 2014
You have a point.
Several of us have independently discovered that not having =
a turtle at=20
home is more fun and less bother than having one at home. So =
why should=20
future generations of children, especially if they are budding =
Biologists,=20
have ts learn such matters by experience ?
Some suitable inspirational lectures, starting by the second =
trimester,=20
supplemented by officially sanctioned posters in the Nursery =
should not only=20
confer protection to turtles but snuff out ideas of getting =
involved in=20
Biology so that children grow up to do something useful, such as =
being avid=20
consumers.
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
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From: "John and Nhung" <nhungjohn@eastlink.ca>
To: <naturens@chebucto.ns.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 2:37 PM
Subject: RE: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
> Good commentary about the need for kids to be exposed to =
nature, but as an
> initial part of the exposure, kids need to be told to leave =
nature where=20
> it
> sits.
>
> I was acquisitive when I was small, as well, and accumulated =
quite a
> collection of live amphibians and snakes. After some of them =
died,=20
> despite
> my best attempts, I realized that collecting was not a good =
idea. So then=20
> I
> kept paper records, instead: species, colour, length, ... =
can't remember
> what else I tabulated, but do remember the biggest garter =
snake I ever
> caught measured 33 inches from snout to tail!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca]
> On Behalf Of bev wigney
> Sent: June-24-14 12:00 PM
> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
> Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Miner's Marsh offleash park...
>
> On 2014-06-24, at 10:23 AM, Fred Schueler <bckcdb@istar.ca> =
wrote:
>
>> * it's hard to see this as bullshit - it's one of the =
fundamental
>> problems facing naturalists and nature in these latter days. =
Both kids
>> and society suffer from Nature Appreciation Deficit Disorder, =
and from
>> the consequences the grotesque exploitation of the Earth by =
those
>> afflicted with NADD. It's a big part of the job of =
naturalists to
>> reverse this, and temporarily holding Turtles in captivity is =
one of
>> the classic ways of communing with nature and getting started =
with
>> science
>>
>> fred.
>
> * I would like to echo what Fred Schueler has just commented. =
While I'm
> definitely not advocating that par