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It was a good idea Chris had to post about Pleasant Hill getting a =
public hotspot and suggesting people might want to merge their person =
hotspots into the public. I didn=E2=80=99t think to do the same when =
months ago I merged my Regatta Point, Armdale Roundabout and Horseshoe =
Island park observations into the newly created Halifax =
Peninsula=E2=80=94Northwest Arm public hotspot so others may want to =
merge their NW Arm checklists into it as well. There is also a Halifax =
Peninsula=E2=80=94Old City Dump public hotspot now (I was hoping for a =
cool name like Africville myself but the old name was chosen), so you =
may want to merge your checklist into that one as well.
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I agree Richard, I think the larger areas such as Brier Island should be =
left separated into several hotspots rather than merged into one big =
one. eBird recommends this as well. The more people that use the =
specific hotspots the better the data becomes, but I can understand when =
some do want to bother doing that as well. eBird actually classifies =
hotspots differently when the observations are more than 5 miles/8.2 kms =
but as far I know this classification is invisible to us for now. Though =
I wish eBird would separate hotspots groups so that we could see true =
single point hotspots grouped together and general area multipoint =
hotspots in their own group. Having separate hotspots also makes it =
easier for new birders, tourists, etc to plan their birding when not =
familiar with the area.
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Keith Lowe
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From: naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca =
[mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Richard Stern
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:38 PM
To: NatureNS
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Pleasant Hill Cemetery and Ebird
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Hi,
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David brings up some interesting points, and I also have some comments, =
if people don't mind
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-- the Pleasant Hill Cemetery effect is partly what was described a =
few years ago in the birding literature as the Patagonia Picnic Table =
Effect - a rare bird is found in a particular location, lots of birders =
go to look for it, and while combing through the bushes, turn up other =
rare birds, and over time this builds upon itself. Other examples might =
include Sandy Cove Rd., it may well be that other nearby local habitats =
are just as good, but people don't go there as much.
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-- It would be appropriate to look at a particular pice of habitat from =
a bird's, rather than a human's point of view -- something we can't =
really do. E.g. if we looked at David's small patch of poplar from =
treetop height, with ultra-violet and 270 degree vision, as a Ruffed =
grouse might well do, it may look completely different from the patch a =
few metres away, for reasons we don't yet understand.
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-- Chris's suggestion about combining personal locations and hotspots =
for eBird is IMHO a good one. There are many other spots in NS to which =
this could apply. An example might be the several different names for =
French Basin Trail in Annapolis Royal, and if they were combined as 1 =
hotspot it would give a better overall view of what birds have been seen =
there. Perhaps those of us who use eBird could look at our other =
locations and follow Chris's example. However, for larger, but "good" =
areas (e.g. Brier Island) it might still be usefull to separate =
different hotspots within the area (e.g. Northern Point, Pond Cove).
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Anyway, some thoughts for a very wet afternoon.
=20
Richard
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#################
Richard Stern,=20
Port Williams, NS, Canada
sternrichard@gmail.com <mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com>=20
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mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>It was a good idea Chris had to post about =
Pleasant Hill getting a public hotspot and suggesting people might want =
to merge their person hotspots into the public. I didn=E2=80=99t think =
to do the same when months ago I merged my Regatta Point, Armdale =
Roundabout and Horseshoe Island park observations into the newly created =
Halifax Peninsula=E2=80=94Northwest Arm public hotspot so others may =
want to merge their NW Arm checklists into it as well. There is also a =
Halifax Peninsula=E2=80=94Old City Dump public hotspot now (I was hoping =
for a cool name like Africville myself but the old name was chosen), so =
you may want to merge your checklist into that one as =
well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;=
mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;=
mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I agree Richard, I think the larger areas =
such as Brier Island should be left separated into several hotspots =
rather than merged into one big one.=C2=A0 eBird recommends this as =
well. The more people that use the specific hotspots the better the data =
becomes, but I can understand when some do want to bother doing that as =
well. eBird actually classifies hotspots differently when the =
observations are more than 5 miles/8.2 kms but as far I know this =
classification is invisible to us for now. Though I wish eBird would =
separate hotspots groups so that we could see true single point hotspots =
grouped together and general area multipoint hotspots in their own =
group. Having separate hotspots also makes it easier for new birders, =
tourists, etc to plan their birding when not familiar with the =
area.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;=
mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Keith Lowe<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DEN-US =
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naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:naturens-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] =
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Stern<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 26, =
2014 2:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> NatureNS<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NatureNS] =
Pleasant Hill Cemetery and Ebird<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>David brings up some interesting points, and I also =
have some comments, if people don't mind<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> -- the Pleasant Hill Cemetery effect is =
partly what was described a few years ago in the birding literature as =
the Patagonia Picnic Table Effect - a rare bird is found in a particular =
location, lots of birders go to look for it, and while combing through =
the bushes, turn up other rare birds, and over time this builds upon =
itself. Other examples might include Sandy Cove Rd., it may well be that =
other nearby local habitats are just as good, but people don't go there =
as much.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-- It would be appropriate to look at a particular =
pice of habitat from a bird's, rather than a human's point of view -- =
something we can't really do. E.g. if we looked at David's small patch =
of poplar from treetop height, with ultra-violet and 270 degree vision, =
as a Ruffed grouse might well do, it may look completely different from =
the patch a few metres away, for reasons we don't yet =
understand.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-- Chris's suggestion about combining personal =
locations and hotspots for eBird is IMHO a good one. There are many =
other spots in NS to which this could apply. An example might be the =
several different names for French Basin Trail in Annapolis Royal, and =
if they were combined as 1 hotspot it would give a better overall view =
of what birds have been seen there. Perhaps those of us who use eBird =
could look at our other locations and follow Chris's example. However, =
for larger, but "good" areas (e.g. Brier Island) it might =
still be usefull to separate different hotspots within the area (e.g. =
Northern Point, Pond Cove).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Anyway, some thoughts for a very wet =
afternoon.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Richard<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal>#################<br>Richard Stern, <br>Port Williams, =
NS, Canada<br><a href=3D"mailto:sternrichard@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">sternrichard@gmail.com</a><br>################### =
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