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<p>Andrew Hebda suggested that maybe the northern --_000_429CDC96B1EE401CAA2554055176506Bdalca_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The latest (Sept 2017, page 17) print issue of US-based Consumer Reports br= iefly evaluates 24 bug repellents, aimed at mosquitoes but saying that thei= r tests showed that they appeared also to repel ticks. The scores range fr= om 95 (tops), down to 4 (poor). Six of the top 9 top recommended brands co= ntain only DEET, 2 contain picaridin, and 1 contains Oil of lemon eucalyptu= s. These are US-based products, unclear if all/any available in Canada. = The report can be reviewed without a subscription at CR.org/repellents0917<http://CR.org/repellents0917> access to which is a bit clunky but worked for me on checking it out. The = CR review doesn=92t mention Piactive or icaridin, probably because the prim= ary focus was on mosquito repellents. The review comes down on plant-based= =91botanicals=92, which it says are not EPA registered and which they say = they found ineffective. Steve (Hfx) On Aug 8, 2017, at 7:03 PM, David Patriquin <davidgpatriquin@yahoo.ca<mailt= o:davidgpatriquin@yahoo.ca>> wrote: When I am in the "right place at the right time" to get black-legged ticks,= especially the nymphs, I use a combination of light coloured (so I can se= e ticks), pyrethroid-treated clothing and a personal insecticide with pyre= thrin or pyrethroids (synthetic analogues of pyrethrin) to ward them off. This summer I began using the Piactive product. I was walking some clearcu= ts in early July with a colleague who had sprayed exposed skin but had untr= eated clothing. Walking the same route, he picked up 5 black-legged ticks, = I picked up none. The Piactive product (which contains icaridin, a pyrethroid) is said to be = good for 12 hours; it doesn't smell bad like Deet, nor does it dissolve som= e synthetic clothing as Deet does. Regardless of whether I have been wearing treated clothing & using the pers= onal insecticide I am always on the lookout for ticks on my skin when I sho= wer. So far so good. View versicolor.ca/noticks<http://versicolor.ca/noticks> for some of my sources. David G Patriquin ________________________________ From: "klantz@ns.sympatico.ca<mailto:klantz@ns.sympatico.ca>" <klantz@ns.sy= mpatico.ca<mailto:klantz@ns.sympatico.ca>> To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [NatureNS] RE: Black-legged Tick and late fall I don't use a repellent for ticks as they are present around my yard and I = would have to apply it every time I go outside. I have tried Piactive for m= osquitoes & black flies, it is 20% Icaridin and seems to be comparable to d= eet. The label states that it is also effective for Ticks so I suspect it w= ould provide some protection. Kevin From: David Schlosberg<mailto:dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 3:31 PM To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> Subject: RE: [NatureNS] RE: Black-legged Tick and late fall I=92m curious. Do you folks spray with deet? I=92ve been using picaridin = this summer and last, but I haven=92t gotten any ticks on me yet. Luck? --_000_429CDC96B1EE401CAA2554055176506Bdalca_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <304E376FC59DF14FA1FD905F9CEF1FA5@namprd03.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-1= 252"> </head> <body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-lin= e-break: after-white-space;"> The latest (Sept 2017, page 17) print issue of US-based Consumer Reports br= iefly evaluates 24 bug repellents, aimed at mosquitoes but saying that thei= r tests showed that they appeared also to repel ticks. The scores ran= ge from 95 (tops), down to 4 (poor). Six of the top 9 top recommended brands contain only DEET, 2 contain= picaridin, and 1 contains Oil of lemon eucalyptus. These are US-bas= ed products, unclear if all/any available in Canada. The report can = be reviewed without a subscription at <div>CR.org/repellents0917</di= v> <div>access to which is a bit clunky but worked for me on checking it out. = The CR review doesn=92t mention Piactive or icaridin, probably becaus= e the primary focus was on mosquito repellents. The review comes down= on plant-based =91botanicals=92, which it says are not EPA registered and which they say they found ineffective.</div> <div>Steve (Hfx) <br> <br> <div> <div>On Aug 8, 2017, at 7:03 PM, David Patriquin <<a href=3D"mailto:davi= dgpatriquin@yahoo.ca">davidgpatriquin@yahoo.ca</a>> wrote:</div> <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <div style=3D"background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'Helvetica= Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px; pos= ition: static; z-index: auto;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3794" dir=3D"ltr"><span id=3D"yu= i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3831">When I am in the "right place at t= he right time" to get black-legged ticks, especially the nymphs,  = ;I use a combination of light coloured (so I can see ticks), pyrethroid-treated clothing and a personal insecticide with = pyrethrin or pyrethroids (synthetic analogues of </span>pyrethrin) to = ward them off.</div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3794" dir=3D"ltr"><br> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3794" dir=3D"ltr">This summer I = began using the Piactive product. I was walking some clearcuts in ear= ly July with a colleague who had sprayed exposed skin but had untreated clo= thing. Walking the same route, he picked up 5 black-legged ticks, I picked up none. </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3794" dir=3D"ltr"><br> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3794" dir=3D"ltr">The Piactive p= roduct (which contains icaridin, a pyrethroid) is said to be good for 12 ho= urs; it doesn't smell bad like Deet, nor does it dissolve some synthetic cl= othing as Deet does.</div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3794" dir=3D"ltr"><br> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3794" dir=3D"ltr">Regardless of = whether I have been wearing treated clothing & using the personal insec= ticide I am always on the lookout for ticks on my skin when I shower.</div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3794" dir=3D"ltr"><br> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3794" dir=3D"ltr">So far so good= .<br> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3794" dir=3D"ltr"><br> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3794" dir=3D"ltr">View </di= v> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3794" dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"htt= p://versicolor.ca/noticks">versicolor.ca/noticks</a> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3794" dir=3D"ltr">for some of my= sources. </div> <div></div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3795"> </div> <div class=3D"signature" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_3801">David = G Patriquin<br> <br> </div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4074"><b= r> <br> </div> <div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4071" sty= le=3D"display: block;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4070" style=3D"font-family: 'Hel= vetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13p= x;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4069" style=3D"font-family: Helv= eticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;= font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4068"><font size=3D"= 2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4073"> <hr size=3D"1" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4072"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b><span class=3D"Apple-= converted-space"> </span>"<a href=3D"mailto:klantz@ns.sympatico.c= a">klantz@ns.sympatico.ca</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:klantz@ns.sympati= co.ca">klantz@ns.sympatico.ca</a>><br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b><span class=3D"Apple-co= nverted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca">natu= rens@chebucto.ns.ca</a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><= br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b><span class=3D"Apple-= converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, August 8, 2017 6:46 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b><span class=3D"App= le-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NatureNS] RE: Black-legged Tick and l= ate fall<br> </font></div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4102">= <br> <div id=3D"yiv7812152416"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4101"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4100"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4099" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; = font-family: Arial;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4388"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym1= 9_1_1502228865168_4387">I don't use a repellent for ticks as they are prese= nt around my yard and I would have to apply it every time I go outside. I h= ave tried Piactive for mosquitoes & black flies, it is 20% Icaridin and seems to be comparable to deet. The la= bel states that it is also effective for Ticks so I suspect it would provid= e some protection.</span></div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4098" style=3D"font-size: small;= text-decoration: none;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4097" style=3D"font-style: norma= l; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height:= normal; font-family: tahoma;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4389"><font face=3D"Arial"></fon= t> </div> <div><font face=3D"Arial">Kevin</font></div> <div><font face=3D"Arial"></font> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4096" style=3D"background-color:= rgb(245, 245, 245); background-position: initial initial; background-repea= t: initial initial;"> <div class=3D"yiv7812152416yqt3679408820" id=3D"yiv7812152416yqtfd06662"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4390"><b>From:</b><span class=3D= "Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" tit= le=3D"dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca" ymailto=3D"mailto:dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico= .ca" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dschlosb-g@ns.sympatico.ca" style=3D"= color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">David Schlosberg</a></div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4095"><b>Sent:</b><span class=3D= "Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, August 08, 2017 3:31 PM</div> <div><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel=3D= "nofollow" shape=3D"rect" title=3D"naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" ymailto=3D"mail= to:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:naturens@chebu= cto.ns.ca" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">naturens@ch= ebucto.ns.ca</a></div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4391"><b>Subject:</b><span class= =3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [NatureNS] RE: Black-legged Tic= k and late fall</div> </div> </div> </div> <div class=3D"yiv7812152416yqt3679408820" id=3D"yiv7812152416yqtfd95007">&n= bsp;</div> </div> <div class=3D"yiv7812152416yqt3679408820" id=3D"yiv7812152416yqtfd01147"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4394" style=3D"font-size: small;= text-decoration: none;"> <div class=3D"yiv7812152416WordSection1" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865= 168_4393"> <div class=3D"yiv7812152416MsoNormal" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168= _4392" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Ari= al; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-s= pacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text= -indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word= -spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 2= 55, 255);"> I=92m curious. Do you folks spray with deet? I=92ve been using = picaridin this summer and last, but I haven=92t gotten any ticks on me yet.= Luck?</div> <div class=3D"yiv7812152416MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; fo= nt-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal= ; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans= : auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-sp= ace: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0p= x; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1502228865168_4397" style=3D"font-family: Aria= l; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:= normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-a= lign: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; w= idows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-= color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> </body> </html> --_000_429CDC96B1EE401CAA2554055176506Bdalca_--
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