[NatureNS] insect repellents US review

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My=2C now retired vet=2C told me=2C that=2C when it came to Lyme Disease=
=3A very few dogs become seriously affected by the organism given off by=
 the Black-legged Tick=2C BUT that a very HIGH percentage of people who =
get bitten by the SAME tick=2C  DO become ill from it=2E=2E=2Ejust sayin=
g=2E=2E=2Ea repellant is a good thing=2C  especially for families intere=
sted in exploring our natural province=2E
 =

Gayle MacLean
Dartmouth =

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On 08/14/17 11=3A20 PM=2C =22Hebda=2C Andrew J=22 =3CAndrew=2EHebda=40no=
vascotia=2Eca=3E wrote=3A =

=3E  =

=3E =

=3E Hi David and Henry
=3E =

=3E I have similar experience=2E=2E Do not use any repellant=2E  Do get =
the odd mosquito and blackfly bite (in season)=2E  I do not react to the=
 bites=2C so the minor occasional inconvenience seems an acceptable trad=
e-off=2C although I know several who are affected quite badly=2E=2E=2E p=
erhaps something on our metabolisms=2C or=2C perhaps we just don=27t let=
 it bother us that much=2E=2E=2E  I do a tick check when I come in from =
the fields=2C but seem not to be much a tick magnet either=2E
=3E =

=3E A
=3E =

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=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F
=3E From=3A naturens-owner=40chebucto=2Ens=2Eca =5Bnaturens-owner=40cheb=
ucto=2Ens=2Eca=5D on behalf of Henk Kwindt =5Bcbatl=40bellaliant=2Enet=5D=

=3E Sent=3A August-14-17 9=3A37 PM
=3E To=3A naturens=40chebucto=2Ens=2Eca
=3E Subject=3A Re=3A =5BNatureNS=5D insect repellents US review
=3E =

=3E I never use any repellent=2C although hardly a day goes by that I do=
 not get into tall grass or bushes=2E
=3E My neighbours have all had ticks including the black legged=2C but I=
 have not seen any yet=2E
=3E I am just too scared of the chemicals especially using them regularl=
y=2E
=3E Besides=2C whatever you use=2C you will have to check your body (tot=
ally) every evening anyway=2E
=3E Same for sunscreen=2C I don=92t use it=2E I am just not convinced wh=
at is worse=2C sun exposure or sunscreen on my skin=2E
=3E Henk Kwindt=2C Cow Bay=2C NS=2E
=3E =

=3E =

=3E On Aug 14=2C 2017=2C at 2=3A42 PM=2C Randy Lauff =3Crandy=2Elauff=40=
gmail=2Ecom=3Cmailto=3Arandy=2Elauff=40gmail=2Ecom =3Crandy=2Elauff=40gm=
ail=2Ecom=3E=3E=3E wrote=3A
=3E =

=3E I know this goes against the grain=2C but have any of you tried=2E=2E=
=2Enothing at all=3F
=3E =

=3E I realize that there are a very few circumstances where one must go =
into mosquito-ridden areas=2E However=2C when disease transmission is ef=
fectively nil (as in NS)=2C can you just not tolerate a few bites=3F I a=
m now 20 years without using repellent=2C not even once=2C not on my clo=
thes=2E=2E=2Enothing=2E Seriously=2C mosquito bites are itchy for a litt=
le bit=2C then no issue=2E
=3E =

=3E I really think bug repellent companies have turned this into a much =
bigger issue than it really is=2C and most people think they *need* repe=
llent=2E
=3E =

=3E I also do not use mosquito jackets=2E=2E=2Ethe hoods have some redee=
ming value=2C but the jackets allow *more* access to your skin than if y=
ou just wore a light shirt=2E=2E=2Ethe weave of jackets is so loose that=
 the proboscis of the mosquitoes has much less trouble getting through w=
hen compared with the tighter weave of shirts=2E
=3E =

=3E I also understand that some people are apparently more attractive to=
 biting flies than other people=2E However=2C I also think that like dri=
ving (impossibly=2C we can=27t all be =22better than the average driver=22=
)=2C there are a lot of people which think that =22mosquitoes just love =
me more than anyone else=22
=3E =

=3E I do support the use of a repellent for ticks or biting insects=2C *=
if* you live in an area where disease-carrying critters are a problem=2E=

=3E =

=3E Randy
=3E =

=3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=
=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F
=3E RF Lauff
=3E Way in the boonies of
=3E Antigonish County=2C NS=2E
=3E =

=3E On 14 August 2017 at 13=3A34=2C Stephen Shaw =3Csrshaw=40dal=2Eca=3C=
mailto=3Asrshaw=40dal=2Eca =3Csrshaw=40dal=2Eca=3E=3E=3E wrote=3A
=3E The latest (Sept 2017=2C page 17) print issue of US-based Consumer R=
eports briefly evaluates 24 bug repellents=2C aimed at mosquitoes but sa=
ying that their tests showed that they appeared also to repel ticks=2E  =
The scores range from 95 (tops)=2C down to 4 (poor)=2E  Six of the top 9=
 top recommended brands contain only DEET=2C 2 contain picaridin=2C and =
1 contains Oil of lemon eucalyptus=2E   These are US-based products=2C u=
nclear if all/any available in Canada=2E   The report can be reviewed wi=
thout a subscription at
=3E CR=2Eorg/repellents0917=3Chttp=3A//cr=2Eorg/repellents0917=3E
=3E access to which is a bit clunky but worked for me on checking it out=
=2E  The CR review doesn=92t mention Piactive or icaridin=2C probably be=
cause the primary focus was on mosquito repellents=2E  The review comes =
down on plant-based =91botanicals=92=2C which it says are not EPA regist=
ered and which they say they found ineffective=2E
=3E Steve (Hfx)
=3E =

=3E On Aug 8=2C 2017=2C at 7=3A03 PM=2C David Patriquin =3Cdavidgpatriqu=
in=40yahoo=2Eca=3Cmailto=3Adavidgpatriquin=40yahoo=2Eca =3Cdavidgpatriqu=
in=40yahoo=2Eca=3E=3E=3E wrote=3A
=3E =

=3E When I am in the =22right place at the right time=22 to get black-le=
gged ticks=2C especially the nymphs=2C  I use a combination of light col=
oured (so I can see ticks)=2C  pyrethroid-treated clothing and a persona=
l insecticide with pyrethrin or pyrethroids (synthetic analogues of pyre=
thrin) to ward them off=2E
=3E =

=3E This summer I began using the Piactive product=2E  I was walking som=
e clearcuts in early July with a colleague who had sprayed exposed skin =
but had untreated clothing=2E Walking the same route=2C he picked up 5 b=
lack-legged ticks=2C I picked up none=2E
=3E =

=3E The Piactive product (which contains icaridin=2C a pyrethroid) is sa=
id to be good for 12 hours=3B it doesn=27t smell bad like Deet=2C nor do=
es it dissolve some synthetic clothing as Deet does=2E
=3E =

=3E Regardless of whether I have been wearing treated clothing =26 using=
 the personal insecticide I am always on the lookout for ticks on my ski=
n when I shower=2E
=3E =

=3E So far so good=2E
=3E =

=3E View
=3E versicolor=2Eca/noticks=3Chttp=3A//versicolor=2Eca/noticks=3E
=3E for some of my sources=2E
=3E =

=3E David G Patriquin
=3E =

=3E =

=3E =

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=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F
=3E From=3A =22klantz=40ns=2Esympatico=2Eca=3Cmailto=3Aklantz=40ns=2Esym=
patico=2Eca =3Cklantz=40ns=2Esympatico=2Eca=3E=3E=22 =3Cklantz=40ns=2Esy=
mpatico=2Eca=3Cmailto=3Aklantz=40ns=2Esympatico=2Eca =3Cklantz=40ns=2Esy=
mpatico=2Eca=3E=3E=3E
=3E To=3A naturens=40chebucto=2Ens=2Eca=3Cmailto=3Anaturens=40chebucto=2E=
ns=2Eca =3Cnaturens=40chebucto=