Re[2]: [NatureNS] Ironwood/Hop Hornbeam

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Hello:
     On the subject of Beech I am puzzled by the strong association=20
between my roads in the wood lot (about 9' wide) and Beech seedlings=20
within 1-2 feet  beyond the wheel track. To keep some I have had to move=20
the road to one side a bit.
     There are no Mature Beech in this woodlot so nuts are flown in from=20
elsewhere (perhaps a steep ravine beyond the NW corner) presumably by=20
Jays. So the location of Beech saplings likely reflects either=20
preferential positioning of nuts along road edges or preferential=20
survival in this micro habitat.
     I am inclined to the latter but wonder if Jays bury nuts. Soil near=20
the road edge, where there is less demand for water, likely wet up=20
earlier in the fall.
Yt, DW, Kentville

------ Original Message ------
From: "Donna Crossland" <dcrossland@eastlink.ca>
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: 11/13/2017 8:46:29 AM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Ironwood/Hop Hornbeam

>I took some time to "paw" about in squirrel-like fashion in a=20
>beech-dominated stand a week or so ago in Kejimkujik.  All of the nuts=20
>had fallen.  There were small, angular beech nuts all over the ground,=20
>now a little more challenging to find in the leaf litter, but they are=20
>there in high numbers.  The beech have clearly over-whelmed the birds=20
>and mammals with plenty of seed left over to make seedlings if=20
>conditions are right.  While search for beech nuts, I also noted a=20
>bountiful supply of papery sacs on the ground from ironwood.  The trees=20
>were interspersed among the beech in the stand I visited.  I think we=20
>often overlook it, but this fall, they stood out somewhat with their=20
>clusters of papery sacs.  There were also lots of maple seed on the=20
>ground.  I was struck by how valuable this mature hardwood stand, with=20
>its diversity of species, must be to wildlife.  It's a bumper crop this=20
>year.
>
>I recommend taking some time to explore the litter layer under mature=20
>hardwoods right now.  The mouse population should explode.
>
>While I was there, I think I saw a chubby squirrel run by carrying a=20
>gym bag...
>
>Donna
>
>
>On 2017-11-09 8:32 AM, Nick Hill wrote:
>>A tree with real character, Nancy. Axe handles. Distinctive fibrous=20
>>bark and those hop like clusters of seeds encased in green envelopes.=20
>>It is frequent on the south face of the North Mountain  in Kings=20
>>especially around that upper escarpment where it's so windy and=20
>>there's erosion. It seems also frequent around small streams and in=20
>>vernal pools in that area and I wonder whether it is dispersed after=20
>>it hits ground by flotation. T & D Nursery in New Ross is starting to =20
>>grow it and Debbie said it took a few years to germinate. The seeds=20
>>have a double dormancy as do number of plants we call "Alleghanian".=20
>>The seed needs a warm stratification  (2mo in moist condition indoors=20
>>and dark) followed by cold stratification so in nature the seeds will=20
>>remain  in the soil until they have received those treatments in warm=20
>>to cold order.
>>
>>Very cool!
>>
>>Nick
>>
>>On Nov 7, 2017 6:29 PM, "NancyDowd" <nancypdowd@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>This is the first time I have ever come across an Ironwood/Hop=20
>>>Hornbeam tree (Ostrya virginians) in this area- the southernmost part=20
>>>of Kings Co. I see the Flora of NS lists it as being scattered=20
>>>throughout from Annapolis Co. to Cape Breton. Here is a poor pic of=20
>>>the seed cluster:
>>>https://www.flickr.com/photos/150605880@N07/38219092242/in/dateposted-pu=
blic/=20
>>><https://www.flickr.com/photos/150605880@N07/38219092242/in/dateposted-p=
ublic/>
>>>
>>>Just posting it in case anyone keeps track of the ranges of tree=20
>>>species in NS.
>>>
>>>Nancy
>>>E Dalhousie, Kings Co.
>>>
>
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  <body><div>Hello:</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 On the subject of Beech I am pu=
zzled by the strong association between my roads in the wood lot (about 9'=
 wide) and Beech seedlings within 1-2 feet =C2=A0beyond the wheel track. To=
 keep some I have had to move the road to one side a bit.</div><div>=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0There are no Mature Beech in this woodlot so nuts are flo=
wn in from elsewhere (perhaps a steep ravine beyond the NW corner) presumab=
ly by Jays. So the location of Beech saplings likely reflects either prefer=
ential positioning of nuts along road edges or preferential survival in thi=
s micro habitat.</div>
<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I am inclined to the latter but wonder if Jays bury nuts=
. Soil near the road edge, where there is less demand for water,=C2=A0likel=
y wet up earlier in the fall.</div>
<div>Yt, DW, Kentville</div><div><br /></div><div>------ Original Message -=
-----</div>
<div>From: "Donna Crossland" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dcrossland@eastlink.ca">=
dcrossland@eastlink.ca</a>&gt;</div>
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