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Proportional representation is a socialist dream to fully control the =
country side with urban views. Next will be collective farms and as they =
say in the Ukraine... The buds of socialism are when babies are suckling =
on the cold nipples of their dead mothers. No thanks!
Lets get back to nature.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: David & Alison Webster=20
To: naturens@chebucto.ns.ca=20
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [NatureNS] Dealing with politicians
Hi Doug & All, Apr 15, 2011
I will have to jump in here also.
I think your approach is unsound for three reasons.
1) Free votes, in which a local MP can vote against party policy, are =
as=20
scarce as hen's teeth. The elected MP is just a vote token, his =
opinion has=20
no clout so why should it count during an election ?
2) And if your local candidate is loyal to party lines why should one=20
suppose that the party platform is not written on water ? Remember =
Halloween=20
2006 ? As in-- Conservative federal election platform Jan 31, 2006 "A=20
Conservative government will....Stop the Liberal attack on retirement=20
savings and preserve income trusts by not imposing any new taxes on =
them."=20
By Oct 31, 2006 Finance Minister Jim Flaherty had realized that not=20
imposing new taxes on income trusts would be "...a very bad thing for=20
Canada." And speaking of trust, that is the key to chosing between =
parties;=20
who can you trust more than the rest ?
3) We have a vote-counting process well suited for two and only two=20
parties. With 4.5 parties in the field, the elected party is almost =
certain=20
to not have a clear majority and therefore not be well enabled to =
reflect=20
majority opinion. This limitation can, in theory, be offset to some =
degree=20
if two or more opposition parties vote against something but, in =
practice,=20
the party with the largest war chest can ignore the vote and proceed =
as=20
though it never happened.
Someday, somehow; proportion representation may come into being =
and,=20
failing that, the truth may eventually emerge that coalitions are =
legal,=20
sensible and desirable.
Meanwhile, when something is as simple as ABC, why make it =
complicated ?
Yt, Dave Webster, Kentville
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<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D4>Proportional representation is a socialist dream =
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<DIV><EM><FONT size=3D4>Lets get back to nature.</FONT></EM></DIV>
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<A title=3Ddwebster@glinx.com href=3D"mailto:dwebster@glinx.com">David =
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Alison Webster</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NatureNS] Dealing =
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politicians</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Doug &=20
=
All, &nb=
sp; =20
Apr 15, 2011<BR> I will have to jump in here=20
also.<BR><BR> I think your approach is unsound for =
three=20
reasons.<BR><BR>1) Free votes, in which a local MP can vote against =
party=20
policy, are as <BR>scarce as hen's teeth. The elected MP is just a =
vote token,=20
his opinion has <BR>no clout so why should it count during an election =
?<BR><BR>2) And if your local candidate is loyal to party lines why =
should one=20
<BR>suppose that the party platform is not written on water ? Remember =
Halloween <BR>2006 ? As in-- Conservative federal election platform =
Jan 31,=20
2006 "A <BR>Conservative government will....Stop the Liberal attack on =
retirement <BR>savings and preserve income trusts by not imposing any =
new=20
taxes on them." <BR>By Oct 31, 2006 Finance Minister Jim Flaherty =
had =20
realized that not <BR>imposing new taxes on income trusts would be =
"...a very=20
bad thing for <BR>Canada." And speaking of trust, that is the key to =
chosing=20
between parties; <BR>who can you trust more than the rest =
?<BR><BR>3) We=20
have a vote-counting process well suited for two and only two =
<BR>parties.=20
With 4.5 parties in the field, the elected party is almost certain =
<BR>to not=20
have a clear majority and therefore not be well enabled to reflect=20
<BR>majority opinion. This limitation can, in theory, be offset to =
some degree=20
<BR>if two or more opposition parties vote against something but, in =
practice,=20
<BR>the party with the largest war chest can ignore the vote and =
proceed as=20
<BR>though it never happened.<BR><BR> Someday, =
somehow;=20
proportion representation may come into being and, <BR>failing that, =
the truth=20
may eventually emerge that coalitions are legal, <BR>sensible and=20
desirable.<BR><BR> Meanwhil